Forget finals.  Success this year is about more wins than last year or strong signs of improvement. We are seeing that.

Richmond will win the flag again. Nobody can beat them at the G and they're in the right age bracket window as a group. Put your money on them now.

Finals experience would be nice. But games like tonight will teach the players just as much as a first round finals loss which is all we can expect.

I feel like there is too much pressure on finals. It may not happen due to Hawks and North super easy draws.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

I think we are good enough to be 7th or 8th & that finals experience is needed  to help with our development .....however I agree that the media & def several posters have unrealistic expectations of a still very young albeit talented side.  2019 will be our year to be taken seriously....

Anything less than finals is an abject failure. Stop accepting mediocrity. 

14 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

Forget finals.  Success this year is about more wins than last year or strong signs of improvement. We are seeing that.

Richmond will win the flag again. Nobody can beat them at the G and they're in the right age bracket window as a group. Put your money on them now.

Finals experience would be nice. But games like tonight will teach the players just as much as a first round finals loss which is all we can expect.

I feel like there is too much pressure on finals. It may not happen due to Hawks and North super easy draws.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Really?????  If we fail to make the 8 AGAIN we simply are overrated. It’s Finals or bust

Such a Melbourne thread. "Too much pressure on finals". Wow.

 

BillyBlanks29, your choice of favourite players really says it all.  You’d probably give them all a hug and a ribbon for just turning up. FCS FO. 

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Anything less than finals is an abject failure. Stop accepting mediocrity. 

Here's the irony of it all. By accepting nothing less than finals as success. We create extreme pressure on ourselves and the team, which makes success less likely. 

If anyone has actually played a sport, they'll know success comes from being in the moment without expectation.

What a joke. We need to play finals 

The only improvement I want to see is one ladder position better than last year. Is that too much to ask?????????????

This season is done, can't beat any team of note.

not playing finals again with this squad would be a colassal failure. Both from a purely footy perspective and a business point of view. We would be 5 seasons into another rebuild, with a squad of 50-100 gamers that haven't played finals. That is setting us up for a breakdown and another rebuild. The wheels can fall off VERY quickly.

As it stands we need to beat two of Adelaide, WC, Geelong, Sydney and GWS to make it, provided we get the job done against the Saints, Dogs, Suns and Freo. That would give us 14 wins.

Ultimately, tonight and round 1 will be this season's "the ones that got away" if we don't make finals. If we lose against the Saints, you can write off finals, and Goodwin's position would again be up for question.

I simply think its up to Goodwin and Hogan !

Finals is a bare passing grade. A pass for me is to win at least one final. If we want a flag, we need finals experience, and that includes how to win one!

We can't win the flag this year but we are good enough to win a final before being knocked out.

I knew a thread like this would appear

”it’s just all too hard, we’re not ready...”

all these soft supporters can just leave the building. 

Finals is the bare minimum this year and if we don’t make it that far, Goodwin will have sleepless nights in summer. 

He’s already under the pump, that forward line last night was an absolute shambles considering the work midfield generated

Finals build Teams, anyone can fail