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40 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Agreed.

I don’t mins the idea of Frost on Dixon due to Frosts strength in one on ones. Dixon isn’t really jack flash either so Frosty could expose him better that Omac.

Frost is not good one on one...he hasn't got the smarts to use his strength. He gets his positioning all a... up.

...and I think Dixon is a bit of a sheep in wolves clothing.

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17 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

IN: Tyson, Frost, Garlett

OUT: Vince, Spargo, Pedersen

Have loved Spargo’s work, but the bigger bodied Collingwood brushed him aside.

Want to see Frost as the second tall against a tall Port Adelaide forward line and Smith play his more suited third tall role.

Tyson is a very good player and has found some form.  Must play against a strong Port Midfield.

 

While these changes look good on paper (so to speak) who helps out Gawn? I assume from what you've said that Frost replaces Vince and Garlett replaces Spargo. Tyson therefore is the "replacement" for Pedersen, but obviously not as the second ruckman.

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9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I know he's strong Frost but I'm worried about his football smarts.

My line up would be.

Dixon on O.Mac

Westoff\Ryder on Petty

Marshall on Joel.Smith

Now I am worried about your football smarts.

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19 hours ago, Mondê said:

I'm worried about this game. Port have their tails up and if we are a couple of % off after the bye we'll get done in hostile territory

The only thing that Port can do generally is to 'long bomb' to such talls in the forward line and to counter that, we really need to concentrate on spoilers working in together. Omac on Dixon and Frost's good reach, height and strength up there too, with of course, Jetta and Hibberd and perhaps a younger player such as Petty with the groundwork. If we do not play Vince or Lewis, it is a chance for the likes of Baker with speed and ball-handling, and Joel the Smith, as well to pinch hit opportunities. Frosty may be rotated into the ruck, as might TMac merely as blocking ruckmen to counter the opposition ruckmen when Gawn is rested up forward. Just an idea. The dependence on rucking is important, but it is not all that clearances are made from - preventing effective opposition rucking is just as important to enable clearance players to activate. Tyson is good in this regard, and needs to dispose at an improved level.

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22 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I've changed my mind re: changes this week. 

I think we need a couple more talls to come in this week. Smith wasn't bad, but we desperately need some more height in our backline. Oscar could be rag-dolled by Dixon if Port get easy ball. 

Pederson just doesn't do enough for me. Sure he can take a clunk, but everything else he does is so average. Doesn't provide pressure, doesn't use the ball smartly and just doesn't have footy smarts. 

I'd like one of Smith or Weideman in. I'd like to try Petty as another tall defender and I want Garlett to come in to our side with a really defined role. 

Ins: Petty, Smith and Garlett

Outs: Vince, Pederson, Harmes

I thought Harmes was very very poor in a few key areas against Collingwood. It would allow for Tom Mac to play more on the wing and become a threat. I think we could worry them with our height. 

But again, it'll all come down to who gets on top in the midfield. We need to come out breathing fire. 

It will be wet weather in the second half. Garlett may not be at his best as a result. For similar pace, ball handling and kicking skills including sudden snaps, Hannan could be a better choice in that crumbing role. He does find space and he does run on to assist with offensive scores and second efforts. 

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21 hours ago, Soidee said:

Season defining game!  They have Wines, Polec and Gray.  Our best game must be brought to beat them.  Bring in Tyson as he must perform or be traded.  Speed is our problem.

Tyson is not going to help with speed 

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Watching Hinkley on OTC last night made me super, super worried about this game

He is so focussed on Friday night, he will have the team breathing fire

If (Captain Obvious here) we don't get an early clearance, crunch a big tackle, kick a couple in row, we'll be sunk

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3 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Watching Hinkley on OTC last night made me super, super worried about this game

He is so focussed on Friday night, he will have the team breathing fire

If (Captain Obvious here) we don't get an early clearance, crunch a big tackle, kick a couple in row, we'll be sunk

Well at least we will see whether this team has improved and where it's going, if we cant handle the heat against top 8 sides this year we don't deserve to make it, a real test especially for the leaders.

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11 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Well at least we will see whether this team has improved and where it's going, if we cant handle the heat against top 8 sides this year we don't deserve to make it, a real test especially for the leaders.

The fans deserve for the team to make finals. If they can't handle the heat against top 8 sides that is a blight on our application and mental steel rather than talent

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19 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Watching Hinkley on OTC last night made me super, super worried about this game

He is so focussed on Friday night, he will have the team breathing fire

If (Captain Obvious here) we don't get an early clearance, crunch a big tackle, kick a couple in row, we'll be sunk

I hope Goodwin/FD and players took note

As with the QBW weekend, I have a terrible feeling we are going to get smoked on this

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38 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Tyson is not going to help with speed 

Good Tyson delivery will help with speed once his 'possession game' swings into play. Hunt and Frost will add a dimension, as will Hannan, dry weather only Garlett, Spargo coz he's a go-er and Jones, of course in bursts. ANB is not too slow, either. The elimination of Lewis, Vince will also provide run without overlong possession so maybe, the Ginger Ninja (Baker) - a noted speedster - could contribute in this regard in bursts from the bench. 

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9 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Good Tyson delivery will help with speed once his 'possession game' swings into play. Hunt and Frost will add a dimension, as will Hannan, dry weather only Garlett, Spargo coz he's a go-er and Jones, of course in bursts. ANB is not too slow, either. The elimination of Lewis, Vince will also provide run without overlong possession so maybe, the Ginger Ninja (Baker) - a noted speedster - could contribute in this regard in bursts from the bench. 

Hunt has done his ankle in the VFL and is out for around a month. I like the ginger ninja but I'm not sure he's ready yet...

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Just now, Mondê said:

Hunt has done his ankle in the VFL and is out for around a month. I like the ginger ninja but I'm not sure he's ready yet...

Thanks, big oversight on my behalf, I had heard this days ago and the memory was not one well retained.

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27 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Good Tyson delivery will help with speed once his 'possession game' swings into play. Hunt and Frost will add a dimension, as will Hannan, dry weather only Garlett, Spargo coz he's a go-er and Jones, of course in bursts. ANB is not too slow, either. The elimination of Lewis, Vince will also provide run without overlong possession so maybe, the Ginger Ninja (Baker) - a noted speedster - could contribute in this regard in bursts from the bench. 

Struggling - really needs to go hard this week

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1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Good Tyson delivery will help with speed once his 'possession game' swings into play. Hunt and Frost will add a dimension, as will Hannan, dry weather only Garlett, Spargo coz he's a go-er and Jones, of course in bursts. ANB is not too slow, either. The elimination of Lewis, Vince will also provide run without overlong possession so maybe, the Ginger Ninja (Baker) - a noted speedster - could contribute in this regard in bursts from the bench. 

I have been reading that Dion Johnston has been playing well off half back for Casey.  Could he come in for Vince?

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13 hours ago, rjay said:

Frost is not good one on one...he hasn't got the smarts to use his strength. He gets his positioning all a... up.

...and I think Dixon is a bit of a sheep in wolves clothing.

I know you're not a Frost fan rjay but I think he'd provide a better matchup for Dixon.

I guess if it actually happens only then can we debate it objectively.

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3 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Watching Hinkley on OTC last night made me super, super worried about this game

He is so focussed on Friday night, he will have the team breathing fire

If (Captain Obvious here) we don't get an early clearance, crunch a big tackle, kick a couple in row, we'll be sunk

 

Agreed, since the Hawthorn game (except for the Adelaide game) our first quarters have been deeplorable.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I know you're not a Frost fan rjay but I think he'd provide a better matchup for Dixon.

I guess if it actually happens only then can we debate it objectively.

OMac is there to play on the big guys, he has showed this with his performances on Hawkins, Brown etc.   He had an off day against the Pies but the pressure up the field didn’t help him.  Frost isn’t needed 

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2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

OMac is there to play on the big guys.  He has showed this with his performances on Hawkins, Brown etc.   He had an off day against the Pies but the pressure up the field didn’t help him.  Frost isn’t needed 

Collinwood had Cox.

Port have Dixon, Westoff, Ryder, Marshall.

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16 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Don't play Frost it will be a step backwards like playing Pedersen last game. Play Petty for height or Baker for speed. How many chances does Frost need to prove that he is unworthy?

He is our 2nd best intercept player just behind Lever W.  I agree though, it's what he does or doesn't do after he gets it that's a worry.

Assuming he is coachable then surely the line coaches would be drilling him to handball behind or sideways whenever possible to the likes of Nev, Hibb and Vince to reduce likely turnovers and increase efficiency going through the middle & forward off HB?

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