If the AFL has any integrity he won't play next week.

Ellis will be missing too.

Lunged in with his arm tucked in for a bump, should be gone

Ellis will get looked at too, but will get off. Whitfield not concussed, and didn't leave the ground. Fine there too. 

Cotchin is a definite fine for mine, and a player that treads that line deserves to miss. 

A devils advocate hypothetical: if it was Martin not Cotchin, would he still win the Brownlow?

1 minute ago, The end is nigh said:

Ellis will get looked at too, but will get off. Whitfield not concussed, and didn't leave the ground. Fine there too. 

Cotchin is a definite fine for mine, and a player that treads that line deserves to miss. 

A devils advocate hypothetical: if it was Martin not Cotchin, would he still win the Brownlow?

Brownlow is Home and away BnF

1 hour ago, Return to Glory said:

I think you're right but it's not just.

To be just, it is also not fair that good ball players like Shiel and others seem to get singled out in Finals. Some miss games because of, (incidents,hits etc) and some don't.

13 minutes ago, TheoX said:

If the AFL has any integrity he won't play next week.

Ellis will be missing too.

must say live I thought nothing in it but that still is very thought provoking

Nothing like a suspension and an appeal to liven up the week

15 minutes ago, Rafiki said:

Lunged in with his arm tucked in for a bump, should be gone

Or did he go in low and hard at the ball and brace for contact?

Honestly I think he's just going hard at the ball. That same action would have happened 10,000 times this year and it's only being discussed because Shiel got hurt. 

Cotchins eyes are on nothing but the ball. 

Itd be a shame if he missed because of that 

6 minutes ago, loges said:

Or did he go in low and hard at the ball and brace for contact?

Either way... irrelevant.

Mrp goes by impact and result.

 

19 minutes ago, loges said:

Or did he go in low and hard at the ball and brace for contact?

Would you grade it careless and low impact? Still a fine and he is gone

Not irrelevant it's a contract sport you're allowed to contest the ball accidents happen. Consensus from the" experts" already swinging to no case to answer

2 hours ago, willmoy said:

Deliberate, high and intentional. Cotchin has form and actually sped up to make the incident more hurtful to the head area.

Maggots up to their usual impartially bereft standard and heavily favoring Tigers to ensure their family GF Tickets.

I hope you weren't hoping for a GWS win and a win for $cully? I was certainly wanting Richmond to win.

14 minutes ago, Rafiki said:

Would you grade it careless and low impact? Still a fine and he is gone

I'm not sure it's even careless, he won the ball, at worst it was a free kick if you ask me. 

Throw it out! He plays...

Who are the commentators on the telly today. Complete flogs... I wanted to turn off and go spew.

1 hour ago, TheoX said:

If the AFL has any integrity he won't play next week.

Ellis will be missing too.

Rubbish, its a competitive game, no malice just intent to win the contest

1 minute ago, Dee tention said:

Throw it out! He plays...

Who are the commentators on the telly today. Complete flogs... I wanted to turn off and go spew.

Basil what's his name trying to make a sensation out of every little incident.

even if he just gets a fine, he automatically gets a suspension already having been fined twice this season.

So either he gets off scott free, or he misses. He shouldn't miss, but if the AFL are consistent (MRP and tribunal included) he will be missing.

51 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Either way... irrelevant.

Mrp goes by impact and result.

 

Really! I thought it was the seat of their pants.

2 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

Really! I thought it was the seat of their pants.

My bad. You are of course correct !!

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

My bad. You are of course correct !!

Deplorable "non decision"by the umpire.

Might Dave Cotchin but shouldn't save him.

 

I think there is an unwritten rule that the MRP go by during finals and in particular the grand final.

My strong sense is that they tend to downgrade the punishment if it looks like costing a GF or other final. This ensures the punishment fits the crime.

I'm happy with that approach and don't want him missing a GF for that knock.

41 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

I hope you weren't hoping for a GWS win and a win for $cully? I was certainly wanting Richmond to win.

Yes, fair comment. I wasn't hoping for GWS upon reflection, maybe a lack of a closer game score and balanced broadcasting along with how seventy thousand  ferals can swing like a pendulum has browned me off enough for this year.

The problem for Cotchin is 1) there was without doubt contact 2) Shiel was concussed 3) he's got a tab running.

Normally the mrp would downgrade it to a nothing kinda fine. 

So its more a case that the mrp has nowhere to go. It cant say it was nothing. It can't just sweep it under the carpet. 

So any form of something os just a bit too much.

This ought to be entertaining.

27 minutes ago, Roost It said:

Rubbish, its a competitive game, no malice just intent to win the contest

Text book study of going for the wrong balls in my opinion....

I'm crooked on the umpiring of the incident. Clearly his head rocks back and umpire nowhere near close enough to adjudge it. Poor effort with three umpires.

Cotchin has already been very lucky this year, particularly with the jumper punch.

Has has the benefit of minimal fines and is 'playing' the umpires.

Third indiscretion and should go but probably won't.

Umpire should definitely go.