Dom Tyson - Yes or No ?

[What 18,810]

Watching Corey Maynard dominate the VFL final on Channel 7, and underlines how much depth we have in the big bodied ball winning midfielder department.  He didnt look out of place at AFL level either.

Dom Tyson is expendable for a player we need, i.e an outside mid..

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On 8/28/2017 at 10:54 AM, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Wouldn't get a game at any of the top 6 clubs. Can't run, can't kick. He's just a taller version of Miles from Richmond - the major difference being Richmond got him for free and we gave up the oppportunity to bring in Kelly or Bontempelli, the two best young players in the competition, for Tyson. 

The Tyson trade and the Vince trade (the pick that got Matt Crouch) look just terrible now.

 

Agree on the first if we took Kelly but word was it would have been Billings (not as clear whether that is a loss at all). The Vince trade is one where it is clearly a win for both parties and as you would expect this season it has moved into the Crows favour. We needed to the short term benefit of quality and experience and Vince as a B&F winner has held up his end. This also assumes we would have taken Crouch with that choice.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,383]

3 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Because he is not Dusty or Danger...and his turnovers are unforced....

Unforced in the centre square? That's a hot ball for the possession getter and Dom gets it.

[george_on_the_outer 7,571]

5 turnovers in the 1st quarter against Collingwood, playing on the wing.  All unforced.  

[What 18,810]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-09/bombers-can-fix-inside-midfield-struggles-woosha

 

Do they have an outside mid we can do a straight swap for with Dom?

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14 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

5 turnovers in the 1st quarter against Collingwood, playing on the wing.  All unforced.  

That kick to ANB who was clear of his opponent still haunts me.

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On 09/09/2017 at 0:59 AM, Bobby McKenzie said:

A big fat NO to a trade. This guy is a prime mover. OK he creates turnovers but so do Patrick Dangerfield and Dusty Martin. If you get the ball often as he does there will be forced turnovers. Dont know why the hate for Dom.

5 points to you for a silly post.

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2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

That kick to ANB who was clear of his opponent still haunts me.

+ 1

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Okay he's not Dusty or Dangerfield, but who is?

Tyson's an ideal candidate to trade; he's a very decent afl standard player who usually gets the ball, something some teams would really value. 

 

We slightly over recruited inside mids so to trade for a current need would be a win win.

Edited September 9, 2017 by Rob Mac......
Apologies, i don't know how to make my font smaller.

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21 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

5 turnovers in the 1st quarter against Collingwood, playing on the wing.  All unforced.  

Did you count them George or is that just a guess?

[george_on_the_outer 7,571]

1.08 Kick to ANB in open misses _ throw in

1.44  open hand pass to player under pressure- turnover

3.57 Direct opponent (Phillips) kicks goal

4.41 free kick from OOB directly to Collingwood player

19.30 handpass to Melbourne player under pressure - turnover

26.35 Marks ball, kicks to a contest - ball up

5 turnovers unforced

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15 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

1.08 Kick to ANB in open misses _ throw in

1.44  open hand pass to player under pressure- turnover

3.57 Direct opponent (Phillips) kicks goal

4.41 free kick from OOB directly to Collingwood player

19.30 handpass to Melbourne player under pressure - turnover

26.35 Marks ball, kicks to a contest - ball up

5 turnovers unforced

Shudder to think how he'd go in a final.

Hes not a bad player at all, but hes expendable and we need midfield balance.

[jnrmac 20,055]

3 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

1.08 Kick to ANB in open misses _ throw in

1.44  open hand pass to player under pressure- turnover

3.57 Direct opponent (Phillips) kicks goal

4.41 free kick from OOB directly to Collingwood player

19.30 handpass to Melbourne player under pressure - turnover

26.35 Marks ball, kicks to a contest - ball up

5 turnovers unforced

Coll kicked 6 goals from turnovers in the 1st so they are costly

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Can we have the above level of critique for the other 21 players?

 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,383]

18 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

1.08 Kick to ANB in open misses _ throw in

1.44  open hand pass to player under pressure- turnover

3.57 Direct opponent (Phillips) kicks goal

4.41 free kick from OOB directly to Collingwood player

19.30 handpass to Melbourne player under pressure - turnover

26.35 Marks ball, kicks to a contest - ball up

5 turnovers unforced

26.35  So a ball up is a turnover? Interesting observation.

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1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

26.35  So a ball up is a turnover? Interesting observation.

When the Pies win the ball up that's how its counted. We were the last in control. 

In any case it was poor kick by Tyson. Are you trying to defend it?

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1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

26.35  So a ball up is a turnover? Interesting observation.

and kicking to a contest is a turnover. Thsat means there were over 100 turnoves in the geel v rich game alone.

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20 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Shudder to think how he'd go in a final.

Hes not a bad player at all, but hes expendable and we need midfield balance.

Great guy,  gets the ball , gets to space BUT delivery is non AFL.  DUSTY and Danger have turnovers but they can stand up and win games 

Tyson is a liability when kicking from 30 meters out.

 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,383]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

When the Pies win the ball up that's how its counted. We were the last in control. 

In any case it was poor kick by Tyson. Are you trying to defend it?

But we haven't necessarily turned it over. Why couldn't we win the clearance and regain possession? 50 50 chance of regaining the ball. You are virtually saying that a contested possession is a turnover if we kicked it last? Come off it mate.

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Got found out early on. Not consistant on his left and can't kick right at all which constantly gets him in trouble.

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On 9/9/2017 at 6:33 PM, Petraccattack said:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-09/bombers-can-fix-inside-midfield-struggles-woosha

 

Do they have an outside mid we can do a straight swap for with Dom?

I confess my ignorance on Connor McKenna but apparently he's irish, super fast and unsigned. A HB but could moulded into wing?

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On 9/11/2017 at 2:02 PM, Bay Riffin said:

and kicking to a contest is a turnover. Thsat means there were over 100 turnoves in the geel v rich game alone.

No its not

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On 9/11/2017 at 6:33 PM, Bobby McKenzie said:

But we haven't necessarily turned it over. Why couldn't we win the clearance and regain possession? 50 50 chance of regaining the ball. You are virtually saying that a contested possession is a turnover if we kicked it last? Come off it mate.

I don't define the stats.

If we have the ball and it ends up in the other teams hands its a TO. Its not rocket science

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On 04/09/2017 at 0:20 PM, DV8 said:

Trade.

Rubbish! We saw in the last match how poor we looked when he started in a wing instead of in the middle. For some reason I will never understand, Hannan and Salem were in the middle, while Tyson was on the wing. When eventually he was put into the middle, the game started to turn our way. Without Viney he was critical. Watch carefully how much grunt work he does. Didn't he miss pre season? This may explain how frequently he had amazing possessions in the first half, less so in the second. After his first season we weren't complaining about the deal which brought him to Melbourne--I still rate him highly. And if his fitness lifts so will his kicking. It was excellent in his first year with us