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  On 05/04/2017 at 00:42, DemonAndrew said:

I just don't rate Brayshaw.

He can't get the ball and when he does get it he turns it over.

Either he improves massively in 2017 or he's trade bait for mine.

Were you one of those that wanted Hunt delisted?

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    No offence to @stevethemanjordan who I rate on this forum but why, oh why, are we discussing potential trades after only 2 rounds of footy have been played? One could be forgiven if it was looking Like 2013 all over again but it ain't.

    And those who are suggesting trading Brayshaw need to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and then head butt it.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 05:18, Redleg said:

    Were you one of those that wanted Hunt delisted?

    no, i don't "want" anyone delisted - i want them all to succeed.

    but i'm cognizant of the fact that, at the moment, brayshaw is tracking no better than toumpas as a player.

    i would love it if he could become a valuable contributor to the side, but at the moment is averaging less than 15 disposals a game at 68% efficiency across 33 games. it's not good enough, just as toumpas' average of less than 15 disposals a game at 74% efficiency across 35 games is similarly not good enough for a modern footballer be they a midfielder or a push-up half forward.

    if brayshaw was what we had to give up to get a lever in, i'd do the deal in a heartbeat.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:08, DemonAndrew said:

    no, i don't "want" anyone delisted - i want them all to succeed.

    but i'm cognizant of the fact that, at the moment, brayshaw is tracking no better than toumpas as a player.

    i would love it if he could become a valuable contributor to the side, but at the moment is averaging less than 15 disposals a game at 68% efficiency across 33 games. it's not good enough, just as toumpas' average of less than 15 disposals a game at 74% efficiency across 35 games is similarly not good enough for a modern football be they a midfielder or a push-up half forward.

    if brayshaw was what we had to give up to get a lever in, i'd do the deal in a heartbeat.

    Dig up, not down!  ;-)

    c'mon man youre losing all credibility now. Brayshaw was third in the rising start in 2015 from memory, had a cracking year.  he'll be back

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:05, McQueen said:

    No offence to @stevethemanjordan who I rate on this forum but why, oh why, are we discussing potential trades after only 2 rounds of footy have been played? One could be forgiven if it was looking Like 2013 all over again but it ain't.

    And those who are suggesting trading Brayshaw need to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and then head butt it.

    Steve, It's fair to say that clubs have started sowing the seeds for potential trade acquisitions. Lever does address a need, regardless of how the season pans out, and now is time to get into his ear. Convincing the player is 99% of the battle,  because history will tell you that 99% of of uncontracted players will end up at their preferred destination. 

    Suggesting trade scenarios is a pointless excercise at this time because we don't know what currency either party will have by the end of the season. Having said that, I'd trade like for like:

    Lever => Lumumba and Garland 

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      On 04/04/2017 at 22:14, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Crows wanted Gibbs, still might want him. Could do a three way deal with Carlton and Adelaide.

    Crows get Gibbs

    Dees get Lever

    Blues get our pick 15

     

    Perfect!!!

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    So we all agree Lever is a gun but then we don't want to give up a good player for him in return?

    Brayshaw for Lever is a fair trade until sentiments get involved 

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    I don't see the glaring need - TMac, Omac, Frost, Hibberd - we could groom Keilty back there too but we're choosing to groom him fwd-ruck - there's a message there.

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    @McQueen - Because I saw the article floating around and thought I'd share it as a point of discussion. 

     

    I too think offering up Brayshaw is going a bit far.

    There's a whole lot of untapped potential there, although I do think many demonanders believe him to be something that he's not; that being a classy and skilled user of the footy. Gussy will be part of a top five most important players in a couple of years, I'm sure of it. His attack on the ball, man and ability to mark above his head are his strengths. He is dual sided, but definitely not in the Mitchell league. It's an area he needs to clean up though, for sure.

    I'm sure most are aware of the fact that we'll need to keep as much of our core together as possible to have a shot at the flag. Our core being Hogan, Weeds, Viney, Salem, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Hunt, Stretch etc. So if we were going to go after Lever, we'd be offering a fringe player and some future picks including a first rounder.

    Anyway, too early to speculate but he's definitely a player I'd love at the club. I heard Mahoney saying not long ago that we have saved coin to lure someone at the right time and when I look at our list, I believe we're another quality tall defender short and perhaps a classy and skilled power running mid short.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:15, DemonAndrew said:

    i really hope so.

    he's stopped developing at this stage imo.

    Averaged 12.7 disposals first year and that rose to 17.6 in a year with concussion issues last year and then 21 in round 1. 

    Bit rough to compare him to Toumpas and to state he has stopped developing.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:15, DubDee said:

    Crows get Gibbs

    Dees get Lever

    Blues get our pick 15

     

    Perfect!!!

    Especially since Blues knocked  back Crows  first and second round picks last year .

    Dreaming!

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      On 05/04/2017 at 05:18, Redleg said:

    Were you one of those that wanted Hunt delisted?

    He didn't answer the question, Your Honour.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:15, DubDee said:

    Crows get Gibbs

    Dees get Lever

    Blues get our pick 15

     

    Perfect!!!

    I think if this was suggested, they'd just cut us out of the deal.

    Lever for Gibbs.

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    Brayshaw has the potential to be an A grade mid - they don't grow on trees.

    i hate it when people say - 'we can find a mid anywhere'...

    You won't stumble across a rolls Royce often and mids win flags.

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:47, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    I think if this was suggested, they'd just cut us out of the deal.

    Lever for Gibbs.

    That's only if Lever nominates Carlton as his preferred destination. Plus the Blues seem to be well stocked with young key backs, such as Marchbank and Plowman. They need quality mids more than anything.

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    If this is correct we don't need to get too excited.

    " Early in 2017, the out-of-contract Lever indicated he planned on signing another contract with the Crows, remaining in Adelaide despite his Victorian roots."

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      On 05/04/2017 at 07:09, mo64 said:

    That's only if Lever nominates Carlton as his preferred destination. Plus the Blues seem to be well stocked with young key backs, such as Marchbank and Plowman. They need quality mids more than anything.

    You're being very generous to Plowman, but I take your meaning.

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      On 04/04/2017 at 21:25, Salems Lot said:

    To get something you have to give something

    This is not the forum to talk about your sexual history SL. Stay on topic. Moderators?

    Edited by Return to Glory

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      On 05/04/2017 at 06:20, Fifty-5 said:

    I don't see the glaring need - TMac, Omac, Frost, Hibberd - we could groom Keilty back there too but we're choosing to groom him fwd-ruck - there's a message there.

    The first 3 are hardly composed or reliable with ball in hand. Keilty is an unknown quantity at AFL level. 

    Lever would be a great acquisition if he were open to a move to the Dees and the deal could be done. Asking price would be steep no doubt.

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