FA & Trade Whispers

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

Well silly season is now officially upon us so lets get the thread back on track.

With Hibberd hopefully on board theres been whispers on here that we are looking at Barlow, Josh Watts and Tom Lamb. Can't think of any more but one i wouldn't mind having a look is Koby Stevens for up graded depth on the Newtons Michies and Matt Jones.

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41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well silly season is now officially upon us so lets get the thread back on track.

With Hibberd hopefully on board theres been whispers on here that we are looking at Barlow, Josh Watts and Tom Lamb. Can't think of any more but one i wouldn't mind having a look is Koby Stevens for up graded depth on the Newtons Michies and Matt Jones.

I still think we'll be keen to get back into the first round this year if at all possible.

 

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29 minutes ago, Abe said:

I still think we'll be keen to get back into the first round this year if at all possible.

 

Not sure how we are going to achieve that Abe.

[Mach5 4,767]

2 hours ago, Abe said:

Amazing that Hamling was a cats reject and now a premiership player and a huge part of why the dogs won, shows smart recruiting can make all the difference. 

Many at the cats were against the delisting of Hamling, and the decision to this day brings about some angst in certain people. Always showed the work ethic and desire to succeed, religiously studying his edits. Late bloomer & showed gradual improvement. Great kid.

You'd never guess he'd never worn shoes til he was 15.

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Just now, Mach5 said:

Many at the cats were against the delisting of Hamling, and the decision to this day brings about some angst in certain people. Always showed the work ethic and desire to succeed, religiously studying his edits. Late bloomer & showed gradual improvement. Great kid.

You'd never guess he'd never worn shoes til he was 15.

Absolutely! based on yesterdays performance and the age/form of Taylor and Lonergan, i can imagine they'd feel like they'd made a mistake there. 

[Mach5 4,767]

2 minutes ago, Abe said:

Absolutely! based on yesterdays performance and the age/form of Taylor and Lonergan, i can imagine they'd feel like they'd made a mistake there. 

 

When they let him go, there was no room to give him a senior game though. He probably would have left for opportunity anyway. Value buy for the dogs.

Then again, even at the dogs he has struggled to get into the team but for injuries, although he looks like he belongs (and excels).

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

i wouldn't mind having a look is Koby Stevens for up graded depth on the Newtons Michies and Matt Jones.

You want to spend currency on upgrading depth?  FM, are you trying to win Casey a GF?

I'd love to be selling Encyclopedias to you.  What say we try and improve the best 22 first.

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

56 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

You want to spend currency on upgrading depth?  FM, are you trying to win Casey a GF?

I'd love to be selling Encyclopedias to you.  What say we try and improve the best 22 first.

To improve your best 22 you also need to continue to improve your depth (censored). Did you not learn anything over the last 2 weeks when the doggies won the VFL granny and then yesterday.

It only takes an injury to Jones Tyson and Viney and we'll be left with a huge hole. 

[grazman 7,432]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well silly season is now officially upon us so lets get the thread back on track.

With Hibberd hopefully on board theres been whispers on here that we are looking at Barlow, Josh Watts and Tom Lamb. Can't think of any more but one i wouldn't mind having a look is Koby Stevens for up graded depth on the Newtons Michies and Matt Jones.

We've also been linked to Tom Cutler, who seems a likely type and many Brisbane supporters rate in their best 22.  If we can orchestrate a trade of Dunn for Cutler we should make out like bandits.  Josh Watts and Tom Lamb are likely to come pretty cheaply/free.  

I think Goodwin's priority will be locking in Hogan and the rest of our young guns rather than trying to attract any other name players (Hibberd aside).

Edited October 2, 2016 by grazman

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

To improve your best 22 you also need to continue to improve your depth [censored]. Did you not learn anything over the last 2 weeks when the doggies won the VFL granny and then yesterday.

It only takes an injury to Jones Tyson and Viney and we'll be left with a huge hole. 

Perhaps he considers like I do that Koby Stevens is not an improvement on the depth

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

To improve your best 22 you also need to continue to improve your depth [censored]. Did you not learn anything over the last 2 weeks when the doggies won the VFL granny and then yesterday.

It only takes an injury to Jones Tyson and Viney and we'll be left with a huge hole. 

Perhaps he considers like I do that Koby Stevens is not an improvement on the depth

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

8 minutes ago, grazman said:

We've also been linked to Tom Cutler, who seems a likely type and many Brisbane supporters rate in their best 22.  If we can orchestrate a trade of Dunn for Cutler we should make out like bandits.  Josh Watts and Tom Lamb are likely to come pretty cheaply/free.  

I think Goodwin's priority will be locking in Hogan and the rest of our young guns rather than trying to attract any other name players (Hibberd aside).

Too be honest cant say i have seen Cutler player much at all. What sort of player is he?

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Perhaps he considers like I do that Koby Stevens is not an improvement on the depth

Well then who is? I said Koby Stevens because he tore Casey apart in the grand final and has already played 70 plus games so at least he has experience and a bigger body to come in when a Tyson Brayshaw or Viney go down.

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34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

To improve your best 22 you also need to continue to improve your depth (censored). Did you not learn anything over the last 2 weeks when the doggies won the VFL granny and then yesterday.

It only takes an injury to Jones Tyson and Viney and we'll be left with a huge hole. 

OK - that's enough for you two.

The bulk of posters and the moderators are sick of the abuse and derailing of threads. 

There will be no more warnings. If you want to carry on your feud do it by PM or better still not at all. 

The next instance of this will see you guys out of here for 3 months minimum. And on that note, just in case, let me wish you a happy new year.

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8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well then who is? I said Koby Stevens because he tore Casey apart in the grand final and has already played 70 plus games so at least he has experience and a bigger body to come in when a Tyson Brayshaw or Viney go down.

IMO a list needs a core of about 30 players who are AFL standard and another 10 who are either young draftees and/or players that could make the 30 in the future.

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18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Too be honest cant say i have seen Cutler player much at all. What sort of player is he?

Nickname(s)	Cuts
Date of birth	20 February 1995 (age 21)
Original team(s)	Oakleigh Chargers
Draft	No. 33, 2013 National Draft, Brisbane Lions
Height / weight	190 cm / 85 kg
Position(s)	Half Back
Club information
Current club	Brisbane Lions
Number	26
Playing career1
Years	Club	Games (Goals)
2014–	Brisbane Lions	33 (12)

Is described as a running player, whatever that means.

From Wiki:

Tom Cutler (born 8 November 1995) is an Australian rules footballer who plays for the Brisbane Lions in the Australian Football League (AFL). Cutler was drafted by the Lions with pick 33 in the 2013 AFL Draft.^[1] He made his debut againstPort Adelaide in round 4 of the 2014 season.

Cutler grew up in Balwyn, in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne, supporting the Brisbane Lions as a child. He played for the Greythorn Football Club, winning multiple club and league best & fairest awards. At the age of 16, he stopped playing club footy to concentrate on school football for Trinity Grammar, and to play basketball, at which he also excelled.

Cutler had an injury ridden 2013 with the Oakleigh Chargers, although when he was available he impressed recruiters with his elite decision-making and athleticism.

Tom debuted in Round 4 of 2014 against Port Adelaide at the Adelaide Oval. Despite getting thumped by the Power, Tom had a respectable debut. He went on to play 7 games for the year, his best of which being a 21 disposal effort against Richmond at the Gabba in Round 5. His debut season was cut short due to injury, soon after being omitted from the side mid-season, suffering from a groin injury and then having minor knee surgery. He is expected to be fit for a full pre-season with the Lions.

Edited October 2, 2016 by Redleg

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18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well then who is? I said Koby Stevens because he tore Casey apart in the grand final and has already played 70 plus games so at least he has experience and a bigger body to come in when a Tyson Brayshaw or Viney go down.

I think Koby Stevens is like maybe Matt Jones and Dean Terlich, can fill a role at AFL level, but better at VFL level, we have BenKen, Michie and Newton who at the moment are all still on the list who can all fill the role, personally would prefer another couple of young guys to develop

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2 hours ago, Abe said:

I still think we'll be keen to get back into the first round this year if at all possible.

 

Wouldn't get us back into the 1st Round, although would have us close to it. Is there a chance (I'm not saying I'm for or against) that we'd trade our 2017 1st Round Pick to Essendon for Hibberd & Pick 19?

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1 minute ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Wouldn't get us back into the 1st Round, although would have us close to it. Is there a chance (I'm not saying I'm for or against) that we'd trade our 2017 1st Round Pick to Essendon for Hibberd & Pick 19?

Eeeekkk much as I like the fact that we seem to be getting Hibberd, the mail seems to suggest our second round pick will be sufficient, think Essendon don't need the hassle, I don't think we would have traded away our first round pick if we were that desperate to stay in the first round

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On 01/10/2016 at 9:16 AM, beelzebub said:

it's delicious isnt it.

Had a similar convo the other week with bro-law ( ex pie player ) Res of family all gung ho  Pies Pies Pies...etc.. b-i-l  only one to suggest that Pies will slip..and badly next year. Or to put it another way....run fast on the spot, going nowhere.  An interesting observation was that if Bucks relents and starts bringing in top ups then its an admission that hes not getting the goods out of his current crop...( and NEVER will ) 

I laughingly put it the Pies are the new successors to Richmond. He thought 9th would be a hard get for the pies next year.. Reckons we should get used to the idea of years of finals.  I replied...DAMN !!  ( smuggly, amongst a sea of cold pastries !! )

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB3CTJRAB9Q

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2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Many at the cats were against the delisting of Hamling, and the decision to this day brings about some angst in certain people. Always showed the work ethic and desire to succeed, religiously studying his edits. Late bloomer & showed gradual improvement. Great kid.

You'd never guess he'd never worn shoes til he was 15.

What is the feeling about Scott down there, Mach? Are they ready to go for someone else now? Or will they keep backing Scott? I feel like both Scott's will be out of the game in 2-3 years time.

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

34 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

OK - that's enough for you two.

The bulk of posters and the moderators are sick of the abuse and derailing of threads. 

There will be no more warnings. If you want to carry on your feud do it by PM or better still not at all. 

The next instance of this will see you guys out of here for 3 months minimum. And on that note, just in case, let me wish you a happy new year.

Nar il see myself out thanks.

[Satyriconhome 10,857]

From what I can glean and if all are still on the list, this is a listing of players who Goodwin and the coaches see rotating through the midfield going forward and that includes the ruck and wing

Jones, Viney, Oliver, Tyson, Melksham, Vince, BenKen, Bugg, Hunt, Garlett, Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Newton, Michie, Hogan, Harmes, Watts, Gawn...probably forgotten somebody............reckon with Hibberd coming in we will use other picks on young kids unless Taylor has found a gem somewhere again

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nar il see myself out thanks.

Much appreciated.

Now on to matters at hand ...

I am really surprised that Cutler's played so many games for Brisbane. It shows how little that club comes under the radar in Melbourne.

Perhaps they do need special assistance.

 

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32 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I think Koby Stevens is like maybe Matt Jones and Dean Terlich, can fill a role at AFL level, but better at VFL level, we have BenKen, Michie and Newton who at the moment are all still on the list who can all fill the role, personally would prefer another couple of young guys to develop

I agree. Unless Stevens is a big upgrade on BenKen and Bugg, and I'm not sure he is, then I'd rather draft some kids.