1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

So why isn't Cyril being cited when he bumped weideman head on and then lifted his leg and drove him into the turf?

That was head on.

once he grabbed the leg and lifted NRL style it should have been a free and a report - it is a dangerous tackle.

20 minutes ago, nutbean said:

 only if the head is down

 

(n) bumps or makes forceful contact to an opposition Player from front-on when that Player has their head down over the football. NOTE: – a Player can bump an opposition Player’s body from side-on but any contact forward of side-on will be deemed to be front-on; – a Player with their head down in anticipation of winning possession of the football or after contesting the football will be deemed to have their head down over the football for the purposes of this law. '

This situation perfectly sums up what Oliver was doing.

 

19 minutes ago, nutbean said:

 only if the head is down

 

(n) bumps or makes forceful contact to an opposition Player from front-on when that Player has their head down over the football. NOTE: – a Player can bump an opposition Player’s body from side-on but any contact forward of side-on will be deemed to be front-on; – a Player with their head down in anticipation of winning possession of the football or after contesting the football will be deemed to have their head down over the football for the purposes of this law. '

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Another form of shepherding is bumping, which is when a player uses their hip and shoulder to bump another player, not using their arms. This technique can be carried out by anyone against any opponent as long as they are within five metres of the ball. Bumping can only occur if the player bumping has their feet on the ground, and no contact can be made with the head. A shirt front, which is a front on bump and usually quite aggressive, is a reportable offence and considered illegal. While a tackle is usually more effective in dispossessing a player, a bump is normally a harder physical hit, although will not result in a free kick, whereas tackles can.

http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-game-rules/

no mention of a shirtfront needing to hit the head, nut

7 minutes ago, nutbean said:

once he grabbed the leg and lifted NRL style it should have been a free and a report - it is a dangerous tackle.

There were two actions where a free should have been paid and neither were paid.

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

 

http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-game-rules/

no mention of a shirtfront needing to hit the head, nut

Thanks DC - what rule is that ?

BTW  - i am incensed because the MRP have ruled it to the head - how is that not weeks ? 

5 minutes ago, nutbean said:

Thanks DC - what rule is that ?

BTW  - i am incensed because the MRP have ruled it to the head - how is that not weeks ? 

rules of shepherding (which is what bumps come under as they are not a tackle)

I gave the web site link i.e. http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-game-rules/

 

p.s. think we can thank an ex-demon (and port) player for the shirt front becoming illegal

p.p.s. even the nrl has banned the shirtfront only they call it a charge

Edited August 8, 20169 yr by daisycutter

My squeezes son reckons that Hawthorn get a cushy ride from umpires and i have countered that he is looking at isolated incidents - praise be the Barrass that we won on Saturday as I can honestly say we were well and truly shafted for most of the afternoon.  

It is not only what they do pay but also what the dont pay and the blatant inconsistency between the three umpires adjudicating. Maddening.

 

( focus your attention on Gawn - the amount of times he was obstructed from getting to a ruck contest or a marking contest and it wasnt picked up was obscene) 

Edited August 8, 20169 yr by nutbean

14 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

So why isn't Cyril being cited when he bumped weideman head on and then lifted his leg and drove him into the turf?

That was head on.

That is what he should have been reported for.  The bump was perfectly legal in the context of the rules.

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

rules of shepherding (which is what bumps come under as they are not a tackle)

I gave the web site link i.e. http://www.aflrules.com.au/afl-game-rules/

interesting - i looked up rules of the game and cant find what your link says !

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/2016 Laws of Australian Football.pdf

completely different ! more bizarre !

Edited August 8, 20169 yr by nutbean

3 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That is what he should have been reported for.  The bump was perfectly legal in the context of the rules.

no it wasn't  - the bump report is now saying low impact to the head....

Just now, nutbean said:

no it wasn't  - the bump report is now saying low impact to the head....

Agree to disagree.  I dont believe it was high.

8 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Agree to disagree.  I dont believe it was high.

The AFL think it was high because it was high.

Edited August 8, 20169 yr by Clint Bizkit

5 minutes ago, nutbean said:

interesting - i looked up rules of the game and cant find what your link says !

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/2016 Laws of Australian Football.pdf

completely different ! more bizarre !

it is quite different isn't it and both from the afl

on your link check out  "15.4.4 Charge or Charging" on page 48 as part of " 15.4 FREE KICK – PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED PHYSICAL CONTACT"

Cyril is a dirty w****r and I think that he will get what he deserves in the long run. I can't wait to see Petracca and others seriously hurt him in future years. Karma is a b***h.

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

it is quite different isn't it and both from the afl

on your link check out  "15.4.4 Charge or Charging" on page 48 as part of " 15.4 FREE KICK – PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED PHYSICAL CONTACT"

I looked at that and didnt think it was a charge  - I am more confused now than ever ( if that is possible)

Times like this i wish Byron Pickett was back playing for us.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Times like this i wish Byron Pickett was back playing for us.

Don't worry dd36...Oliver won't forget...watch carefully next time they play...Clarrie will be much bigger...Rioli may run but there will be nowhere to hide

13 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

it is quite different isn't it and both from the afl

on your link check out  "15.4.4 Charge or Charging" on page 48 as part of " 15.4 FREE KICK – PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED PHYSICAL CONTACT"

I think it may be becoming clear why different umpires make different decisions. They read different websites.  The AFL couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery. 

was a fair bump. didnt get him in the head

it was all the ducking by Cyril and the spear tackling that was disgraceful

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Don't worry dd36...Oliver won't forget...watch carefully next time they play...Clarrie will be much bigger...Rioli may run but there will be nowhere to hide

Talking to the bushies boys they said when he played seniors for Mooroopna as a 16 year old he was bit of a loose cannon on the field. Always wanting to biff with blokes 10 years his age and giving the older blokes lip service for taking up spots in the ones lol..

He will NOT take a backward step. This is why Nathan Jones said he is the toughest young kid he has ever seen. Look at the way he lost his [censored] at Myke Cook when he bit him.

Half way through the year during a Murray Bushrangers game he cracked a 16 year old kids shoulder because of an absolute bone crunching tackle. Darren Ogier and the coaching staff sat him down and told him he needed to curb his aggression as they knew at AFL level he would come under much more scrutiny.

Didn't look high to me.

Don't really care about the AFL's convoluted take on these incidents but if the end outcome is that he gets to play next week then I'm okay with that. Was a good hit.

Just now, P-man said:

Didn't look high to me.

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

You can freeze frame these things to death sometimes. I was okay with it. 

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

On that photo you would say Ollie has contributed to the head high, by bending his knees. If he stays upright, he gets hit int he chest.

Anyway, lets all move on, we have 3 more games to win..

Edited August 8, 20169 yr by Redleg

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

It really does go back that far

I will never forget Moloney copping two weeks for not hitting a bloke!