12 hours ago, Skuit said:

If Trenners came back at the peak of his previous powers (not projected potential) who would he replace from the current best 22 and in what position (taking into consideration that some of the best 22 are there on projected potential)? 

Id see him as in the mix for a forward pocket or HFF. Maybe not 1st choice but if Garlett or Watts are unavailable, I can see Jack as a medium smart thinking leading forward, like Delidio or Bartel. He is/was good overhead.

16 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well I can't wait to see your, "Sheeit Fence was right! response"!

He has missed 2 plus years out!

Name any other player that has had such an extensive time out that has come back?

Look he was reasonably good early, but in all honesty given his injuries and the pace of the game , can anyone really see him forcing a place in this current side?? And if so what position would he play?? In front of Who??

At 90% of his best - Grimes,  Harmes, Kennedy, Bugg, etc ......

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

Optimistic that Jack can make his way back. Naturally has good stamina; the new interchange cap makes this attribute even more important. Can see him playing as a utility, much like Jimmy Bartel does for the Cats. Who would he replace? Would be competing for just about every role on the park except the spine and ruck positions.

Let's not forget that in 2014, when crocked, he still managed 20+ disposals. The kid knows how to play footy.

he's a footballer first, athelete +++

 

just needs to be fit & robust.  the type that would make coach Roosy drool.

 

lets hope he can find it again.

I know he likes a goal but what about a role off half back for Jack as well? It's no secret that our ball users in the backline are pretty average, if Jack still has that great disposal on him he could be quite valuable as someone to bring the ball out with class. He and Salem could potentially swap between the two areas. 

My only concern would be his defensive capabilities. 

29 minutes ago, Pates said:

I know he likes a goal but what about a role off half back for Jack as well? It's no secret that our ball users in the backline are pretty average, if Jack still has that great disposal on him he could be quite valuable as someone to bring the ball out with class. He and Salem could potentially swap between the two areas. 

My only concern would be his defensive capabilities. 

I would have thought defensive capabilities were quite important if a player is to play a defensive role....

30 minutes ago, Pates said:

 

My only concern would be his defensive capabilities. 

My only concern would be leg speed for a HBF

 

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I would have thought defensive capabilities were quite important if a player is to play a defensive role....

My concern being whether he has them or not.  Jack is very much an unknown quantity at the moment. 

Still to be answered! Where would he play and who would he replace??

1 hour ago, GM11 said:

At 90% of his best - Grimes,  Harmes, Kennedy, Bugg, etc ......

Grimes shouldn't get a game for starters, Harmes Kennedy, Bugg, right now are the future and much better! Probably quicker as well!

Would prefer any of these ex Grimes to get a game at present!

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Still to be answered! Where would he play and who would he replace??

umm go back and have a read - there are lots of responses to that question

1 minute ago, nutbean said:

umm go back and have a read - there are lots of responses to that question

And some are trying to be FUNNY!

I have responded to one just now! 

 

9 minutes ago, Pates said:

My concern being whether he has them or not.  Jack is very much an unknown quantity at the moment. 

Absolutely. He hasn't played anything competitive for over 2 years and some people in here have him best 22. It's a fairy story

i wish him well but Top Line AFL is still a long way down the track

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Still to be answered! Where would he play and who would he replace??

It's a silly question. 

As Trengove's form at Casey unfolds over a 4-6 week period we'll be far better equipped to provide an answer.

18 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well I can't wait to see your, "Sheeit Fence was right! response"!

He has missed 2 plus years out!

Name any other player that has had such an extensive time out that has come back?

Look he was reasonably good early, but in all honesty given his injuries and the pace of the game , can anyone really see him forcing a place in this current side?? And if so what position would he play?? In front of Who??

Robbie Gray, 

Max Gawn, 

Daniel Menzel ( granted not long back but certainly not lost any ability )

and if he's fit and firing he's head of Grimes, Matt jones, Bugg, Harmes

play as a high half forward rotating through the midfield, maybe a bit off half back in the daniel cross mold as he isn't quick, but smart, good overhead and uses it well.

15 hours ago, Skuit said:

If Trenners came back at the peak of his previous powers (not projected potential) who would he replace from the current best 22 and in what position (taking into consideration that some of the best 22 are there on projected potential)? 

Best 22 is a moot point because there are always injuries - Brayshaw and VDB are out at the moment, but it will be someone else some other time.  I have Trengove at his best ahead of 6 players in the NAB3 24 ahead of Kent, Grimes, Bugg, Kennedy, Harmes, M.Jones  - so at his best that puts him clearly in for me.

18 hours ago, picket fence said:

 

He has missed 2 plus years out!

Name any other player that has had such an extensive time out that has come back?

 

Sean Wight: and he came back better than ever!

15 hours ago, Skuit said:

If Trenners came back at the peak of his previous powers (not projected potential) who would he replace from the current best 22 and in what position (taking into consideration that some of the best 22 are there on projected potential)? 

Best 22 is a moot point because there are always injuries - Brayshaw and VDB are out at the moment, but it will be someone else some other time.  I have Trengove at his best ahead of 6 players in the NAB3 24 ahead of Kent, Grimes, Bugg, Kennedy, Harmes, M.Jones  - so at his best that puts him clearly in for me.

18 hours ago, picket fence said:

 

He has missed 2 plus years out!

Name any other player that has had such an extensive time out that has come back?

 

Sean Wight: and he came back better than ever!

52 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Grimes shouldn't get a game for starters, Harmes Kennedy, Bugg, right now are the future and much better! Probably quicker as well!

Would prefer any of these ex Grimes to get a game at present!

Extraordinary post

19 minutes ago, Dee Dee said:

Sean Wight: and he came back better than ever!

Don't forget the Ox after his 3 knee reco's. He was still a bloody good CHF after he came back

If fit, Jack's best position will be off half back, with very occasional forays into the midfield. He's a good decision-maker, good disposer, tough and reads the play well.

If he gets back he will play in the mid field/half fwd/half back rotation with the other 14 players on the ground

3 hours ago, GM11 said:

At 90% of his best - Grimes,  Harmes, Kennedy, Bugg, etc ......

And at 100% of his best - everyone bar Vince and Jones. If ... IF ... he regains full fitness & form. Which is a huge "if".

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Best 22 is a moot point because there are always injuries - Brayshaw and VDB are out at the moment, but it will be someone else some other time.  I have Trengove at his best ahead of 6 players in the NAB3 24 ahead of Kent, Grimes, Bugg, Kennedy, Harmes, M.Jones  - so at his best that puts him clearly in for me.

Cheers for the response and those of others. I think sometimes a question can be misconstrued as a veiled political point around here. I probably should have framed it differently. I was just curious as to where people had him ranked as to our list position-wise at not necessarily his best but with regard to his best consistent output (2011?). There's quite a half-forward - half-back/midfield squeeze for spots going on at the moment.

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Best 22 is a moot point because there are always injuries - Brayshaw and VDB are out at the moment, but it will be someone else some other time.  I have Trengove at his best ahead of 6 players in the NAB3 24 ahead of Kent, Grimes, Bugg, Kennedy, Harmes, M.Jones  - so at his best that puts him clearly in for me.

Cheers for the response and those of others. I think sometimes a question can be misconstrued as a veiled political point around here. I probably should have framed it differently. I was just curious as to where people had him ranked as to our list position-wise at not necessarily his best but with regard to his best consistent output (2011?). There's quite a half-forward - half-back/midfield squeeze for spots going on at the moment.