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vandenBerg 2.0

Straight Sets Simon
in Melbourne Demons

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Why are discussing Magner?

vandenBerg is is a cut above him in so many more areas but particularly footy smarts. 

I'm really looking forward to Vanders second season as well.

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    42 minutes ago, McQueen said:

    Why are discussing Magner?

    vandenBerg is is a cut above him in so many more areas but particularly footy smarts. 

    I'm really looking forward to Vanders second season as well.

    I think the main area is versatility.

    Vanders is primarily an inside mid - but we saw him taking some solid marks forward and he had 17 shots on goal in his 14 games - if he could have kicked straight (5G12B) it would have been a very handy return.

    Magner was very one dimensional.

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    56 minutes ago, McQueen said:

    Why are discussing Magner?

     

    Because it rhymes with Wagner?

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    I know we all get carried away at times but I think we're actually seeing a decent team getting cobbled together and it's very much about players like Vanders. He's a footy player...not something else with athleticism who also can play footy....NO, he's a fair dinkum realfooty player and what a difference this is making. Gus is a footy player. Salem one also.

    Petracca is a gifted all rounder really but he moves and plays...footy.. How much easier to develop a plan/gamestyle when your players can intuitively play the game.

    Hogan and Jeffy are just naturals.

    There are others but Vanders is quite interesting. Very much looking forward to seeing a fitter and better prepared version taking the.field. I feel confident when he has the ball. He can play.

    Edited by beelzebub

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    1 minute ago, binman said:

    Because it rhymes with Wagner?

    Lucky we wren't talking about Jayden Hunt.

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    5 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    Lucky we wren't talking about Jayden Hunt.

    Which player would we be discussing if we were?

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    I think what everyone is failing to remember about Magner is that he built the entire Eastlink by himself. 

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    1 hour ago, McQueen said:

    Why are discussing Magner?

    vandenBerg is is a cut above him in so many more areas but particularly footy smarts. 

    I'm really looking forward to Vanders second season as well.

    Because the amount of state league footballers that can come in and make an impact at AFL level is very, very minimal.  Barlow, and to some degree JPod are exceptions to the rule.  Hopefully AvB is too.

    That said, the jury is out for me regarding AvB (lucky I'm on RPFC's ignore list).  He absolutely showed signs in his first year, I'm not disagreeing with that, but we have seen many a player show "signs", then find they don't/can't/won't take the next step.  I'm not suggesting he won't, I just have NFI which way he will go, and time will tell the tale for me.

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    8 minutes ago, fndee said:

    Scully?

    And around in circles we go.

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    52 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    This guy.

    Highest pick ever in a Draft. Good for trivia buffs.

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    Vandenberg hits the play, player and ball with aggro and an intention to have an impact.

    Improving his fitness will increase his capacity to do this, hit more contests and make better decisions. Increasing his experience at this level (AFL) will improve his damage and ability to hurt the opposition.

    Big fan.

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    The minute I saw him run on the ground in round one I knew we had a player here.

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    3 hours ago, ManDee said:
    James Magner
    Personal information
    Full name James Magner
    Date of birth 12 August 1987 (age 28)
    Original team(s) Dandenong Stingrays (TAC Cup)
    Draft No. 42, 2011 AFL Draft, Melbourne
    Height/Weight 178 cm / 82 kg
    Position(s) Midfielder
    Club information
    Current club Port Melbourne

     

    Way too big?

     

    Gary Jnr Ablett  
    #9   Gold Coast Suns
    Age: 31yr 7mth    Games: 274     Born: May 14, 1984    
    Height: 182cm     Weight: 85kg     Position: Midfield

     

    Nathan Fyfe  
    #7   Fremantle Dockers
    Age: 24yr 2mth    Games: 112     Born: September 18, 1991    
    Height: 190cm     Weight: 88kg     Position: Midfield

    or the same as Jack Viney, way too big.

    Jack Viney  
    #7   Melbourne Demons
    Age: 21yr 8mth    Games: 49     Born: April 13, 1994    
    Height: 178cm     Weight: 82kg     Position: Midfield

     

     

    Your first mistake is believing those numbers. No way was Magner 82kgs.. Just like Fyfe mentioned he was playing around the 92kg this year.

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    51 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

    The minute I saw him run on the ground in round one I knew we had a player here.

    The minute I saw him run on to the ground as the substitute in the NAB Challenge game I knew we had a player.

     

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    14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    The minute I saw him run on to the ground as the substitute in the NAB Challenge game I knew we had a player.

     

    The minute I saw him running to board a tram on his way to pre season training I knew we had a player.

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    5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    Hopefully Wagner is our vandenBerg 2.0.

    I must say when I saw the thread title I was thinking, hoping,  just that.

    2 hours ago, billy2803 said:

    Because the amount of state league footballers that can come in and make an impact at AFL level is very, very minimal.  Barlow, and to some degree JPod are exceptions to the rule.  Hopefully AvB is too.

    That said, the jury is out for me regarding AvB (lucky I'm on RPFC's ignore list).  He absolutely showed signs in his first year, I'm not disagreeing with that, but we have seen many a player show "signs", then find they don't/can't/won't take the next step.  I'm not suggesting he won't, I just have NFI which way he will go, and time will tell the tale for me.

    I his own way I feel he has already made that step.   I very much doubt he will be a flash in the pan type.  

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    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Your first mistake is believing those numbers. No way was Magner 82kgs.. Just like Fyfe mentioned he was playing around the 92kg this year.

    My first mistake? The comment was he was too big, are Ollie Wines or P Dangerfield too big at 92kg (quoted) or Dane Swan 93kg or Jab Watson at 94kg. He certainly wasn't too tall.

    PS. I don't believe quoted height or weights, but they are a guide.

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    2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

    The minute I saw him running to board a tram on his way to pre season training I knew we had a player.

    The minute I saw him on the prowl one night, I knew we had a player.

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    38 minutes ago, H_T said:

    The minute I saw him on the prowl one night, I knew we had a player.

    As soon as he said that he was in no hurry to sign a new contract, wanted to concentrate on his football, see where the club was going and would address it at the end of the  season , I knew we had a player.

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    the second i first heard of him i knew we had a player

     

     

     

     

    not a bad footballer either

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