On 12/06/2015 at 17:34, olisik said:

Iv been saying we should trade Watts for years but last week seeing him play changed the way I think about him.

I think he is the biggest game changer our team has. Some of the things he did last week to turn the swing of the game were amazing, no one else in our team has that IQ and talent.

No one else in our team can swing a game around like Watts can when he is on

Turn it up. It was good to see him contributing . Nothing more. Lets see him get in our best before we start pumping him up like you just have.

  On 13/06/2015 at 03:06, Henrietta Lumbago said:

Turn it up. It was good to see him contributing . Nothing more. Lets see him get in our best before we start pumping him up like you just have.

I agree it's weird but I saw some of the play switches and damn he knows how to give our boys space and time to launch and attack.

  On 13/06/2015 at 03:07, olisik said:

I agree it's weird but I saw some of the play switches and damn he knows how to give our boys space and time to launch and attack.

So when we trade him we might get pick 55 in return compared to his value at the start of the year which was 56...

  On 13/06/2015 at 03:10, Henrietta Lumbago said:

So when we trade him we might get pick 55 in return compared to his value at the start of the year which was 56...

Hope we don't trade him as we don't really have spare utilities to fill the void left

  On 12/06/2015 at 12:47, Je Roos Salem said:

Same could've been said about Garlett.

some are not ahead of themselves, & think they're bigger than the club & the team.

  On 12/06/2015 at 15:08, Pennant St Dee said:

Could be but Garlett's attitude doesn't affect his training and getting his body prepared

we want pace & unafraid of a physical contest hard workers... garlett still is a flash in & out type atmo.

  On 12/06/2015 at 15:58, Rafiki said:

I don't think there are any issues with Garlett's attitude. I may be wrong but the only thing I remember him being involved in off field is the recent indecent where he was the one who was attacked, he seems pretty committed to his family.

let Roosy choose the head screwed on well types.

  On 12/06/2015 at 23:20, chook fowler said:

We'd be lucky to get a Morton for Dawes

ah, but we should be looking at least

  On 13/06/2015 at 02:23, olisik said:

As to those paying out on Dawes I think it's a bit harsh, the guy works hard and definitely gave us something when we wernt doing too well under the Neeld regime.

That said I think he does have value and now would be a good time to see if we could get anything back for him in a younger player which fits our age demographic better.

He played under Neeld for half a season for a handful of games.

Hopefully we can trade him but his value is limited:

Is 27 with a calf injury since 2011 so can't play a full season.

Has averaged 1 goal/game with MFC (1.2 at Pies)...poor for even for the 3rd forward.

Being paid over $500K pa (unless contract front-ended).

Works very, very hard but for very little impact.

So, can we get anything for him?

Doubt it...steak knives maybe (and we would still have to pay part of his salary).

We are stuck with him...a depth player till end of contract in 2016.

  On 13/06/2015 at 03:27, Lucifer said:

He played under Neeld for half a season for a handful of games.

Hopefully we can trade him but his value is limited:

Is 27 with a calf injury since 2011 so can't play a full season.

Has averaged 1 goal/game with MFC (1.2 at Pies)...poor for even for the 3rd forward.

Being paid over $500K pa (unless contract front-ended).

Works very, very hard but for very little impact.

So, can we get anything for him?

Doubt it...steak knives maybe (and we would still have to pay part of his salary).

We are stuck with him...a depth player till end of contract in 2016.

sounds like a circulation problem?

Harmes and King playing well at Casey so at this rate we may need to upgrade 3 rookies: Vandenberg, King and Harmes!

Each is certainly making a case for upgrade.

Otherwise another team might pinch King and Harmes!

Edited June 13, 20159 yr by Lucifer's Hero

is there any chance of the club actually trading Dawes though?

I wonder if Barlow would be gettable. He seems to be out of favour as a pure mid and is being played of a HFF. Could do with him running through the middle!

Did you hear our Prime Minister with steely gaze explaining "we are too soft"? Thought of Demonland.

From now on every time I read a poster complaining about this one or that one of our players being "soft", I'll be able to put the face to the comment. Picture it every time you hear it - "soft", in Abbott triplicate, complete with that manly tongue-flicking. Bring it on, fellas, there's vision now! Maybe I should find out how to do the gif.

Meantime, others of us will listen to Paul Roos, valuing other attributes...

With Patton still pencilled a spot at GWS, how about James Stewart as that resting ruck option?

21 years old, 198cm, can kick a goal.

agree that Stewart is gettable

  On 13/06/2015 at 07:12, Pirlo said:

With Patton still pencilled a spot at GWS, how about James Stewart as that resting ruck option?

21 years old, 198cm, can kick a goal.

Not meaning to criticise but the way Max King is going he is a very similar type.

Max, soon to be 20, 200cm, can kick a goal. (Kicked 5 today with Scoprions)

Just needs some experience! Max can be our Mitch Clark, or Kurt Tippet or ...

Edited June 13, 20159 yr by Lucifer's Hero

  On 13/06/2015 at 06:00, Duh said:

is there any chance of the club actually trading Dawes though?

Brisbane would take him, they are desperate for an experienced big bodied forward

  On 13/06/2015 at 07:23, Lucifer said:

Not meaning to criticise but the way Max King is going he is a very similar type.

Max, soon to be 20, 200cm, can kick a goal. (Kicked 5 today with Scoprions)

Just needs some experience! Max can be our Mitch Clark, or Kurt Tippet or ...

Very encouraging, how Maxy went today, but one swallow doesn't make a summer. If he keeps on chipping away in the VFL and gets some form behind him then maybe, but Stewart is looking very comfortable at AFL level already.

  On 13/06/2015 at 07:23, Lucifer said:

Not meaning to criticise but the way Max King is going he is a very similar type.

Max, soon to be 20, 200cm, can kick a goal. (Kicked 5 today with Scoprions)

Just needs some experience! Max can be our Mitch Clark, or Kurt Tippet or ...

FMD. No pressure...

  On 13/06/2015 at 07:12, Pirlo said:

With Patton still pencilled a spot at GWS, how about James Stewart as that resting ruck option?

21 years old, 198cm, can kick a goal.

No. James Stewart gives me vertigo.

  On 12/06/2015 at 10:44, spirit of norm smith said:

Gone... m jones, terlich, mckenzie, fitzpatrick, bail & hunt (not developed).

retire... jamar

Thats 7 spots.

draft 4 (Harley Balic),22 (Sam Weideman),38 (Blake Hardwick),trade in Dean Towers (Sydney for pick 56), free agent Leuenberger and rookie upgrade for Harmes and Vandenburg. King stays for yr3 as interstate rookie.

Towers needs AFL action. Missing out due to Swans strength.

  On 13/06/2015 at 06:56, robbiefrom13 said:

Did you hear our Prime Minister with steely gaze explaining "we are too soft"? Thought of Demonland.

From now on every time I read a poster complaining about this one or that one of our players being "soft", I'll be able to put the face to the comment. Picture it every time you hear it - "soft", in Abbott triplicate, complete with that manly tongue-flicking. Bring it on, fellas, there's vision now! Maybe I should find out how to do the gif.

Meantime, others of us will listen to Paul Roos, valuing other attributes...

Would we look at Cutly Hampton from GWS?

Interesting now we start to hear which players clubs are chasing etc. But you never hear Melbourne as one of the clubs mentioned.

Im guessing this isnthe work of Peter Jackson and Todd Viney in going about things very quitely.

  On 13/06/2015 at 23:27, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting now we start to hear which players clubs are chasing etc. But you never hear Melbourne as one of the clubs mentioned.

Im guessing this isnthe work of Peter Jackson and Todd Viney in going about things very quitely.

No. Wrong. Do you seriously think good players from other clubs would want to come to Melbourne? There are 14 teams above us on the ladder. We have to build through the draft.

I would keep Matt Jones personally. Grimes, Watts & Mckenzie should be moved on before Matt is even thought about.We gave Watts a fair run of chances...why not Matt Jones...who can seriously run!

The Russian may have another year left IMO also, but he's either injured atm or he may no longer be up to the rigours of AFL with such poor form.

On another note..

Its been a long time coming but if Spencer plays another game like he did the other week then he will get a gig over Gawn frequently.

Gawny I love, but I don't think he's as mobile now...doesnt seem to cover the ruck contests as quickly as spencer who may well have a bigger motor.

Gawny might just be a pinch hit fwd & ruck option. But the man I call Ned with the Bushranger beard go's pretty good when on song!

Our club doesn't leak unless they want to, but i know 2 players personally whos managers have had conversations with the club, not that that guarantees anything, very common practice these days