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THE SAGA CONTINUES - WADA APPEALS

Whispering_Jack
in Melbourne Demons

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Crameri's mum apparently did check with ASADA using the permission form he bought home and it all checked out. I call BS on that as if you put in thymomodulin it asks you for more detail as this may mean a few things, some of which are banned. ASADA also give you a receipt number for your check for use in your defence yet there has been no mention of this.

Either Crameri's mum didn't use the portal properly, didn't understand the results it spat out, or it never happened. You can choose which it is, not knowing Crameri's mum I would say pick 3 as pick 1 and 2 don't look good for her and I don't want to besmirch the name of a women I have never met.

did she bother to enquire about the many other 'exotics' on the form ? :rolleyes:

 

I think WADA should go for 8 month bans on players down from 12, but hit the club for two year ban.

I think WADA should go for top whack.. 2 years less time served..

thats just me though :roos:

did she bother to enquire about the many other 'exotics' on the form ? :rolleyes:

I don't think she did any of it, the info is coming from an Essendon nutter that I don't have a lot of time for or value their opinion. Just reporting what has been put out there.

 

I don't think she did any of it, the info is coming from an Essendon nutter that I don't have a lot of time for or value their opinion. Just reporting what has been put out there.

its right up there with "dog ate my homework " isn't it...lol

This is the case most likely. The AFL dont want to do ANYTHING ..nada... luckily they don't have to..ASADA will and they won't be forgetting the errors of their first go at this . Asada need to show they are made of the right stuff again. They'll have everyone else involved ( other than the players ) in their sights now

BB, I'm a bit disappointed you didn't get all of nada, WADA and ASADA into the same post.


BB, I'm a bit disappointed you didn't get all of nada, WADA and ASADA into the same post.

BADA bing!

BB, I'm a bit disappointed you didn't get all of nada, WADA and ASADA into the same post.

I am too, now . :roos:
 

outrageous...... they only used 'safe' stuff......they told us :rolleyes:


outrageous...... they only used 'safe' stuff......they told us :rolleyes:

They only pleaded guilty to lessen the pressure on the Players bb.

Why can't you see they have always been about what is best for the players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The CAS case is against the players, not the club.

Who knows what will happen though in the wash up if the players are found guilty.

Oh I have a pretty good idea :rolleyes:

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Yes, Hird for example ... a giant of a man ... after holding his sword aloft for so long, finally fell on it, for the good of the players. That's what Tracey Holmes said.

I think it was "sword". Maybe it was "prong". Something like that.

Yes, Hird for example ... a giant of a man ... after holding his sword aloft for so long, finally fell on it, for the good of the players. That's what Tracey Holmes said.

I think it was "sword". Maybe it was "prong". Something like that.

only fell on it after ascending a tad too high...Icarus like

outrageous...... they only used 'safe' stuff......they told us :rolleyes:

And this:

"Details of the charges released by the Melbourne Magistrates Court show Essendon administered substances without properly informing the club doctor or receiving proper consent from its players."

So in a court of law they have admitted this.

So who made the decision to do that?

What players asked questions? Or checked on the programme?

What did the Doctor do? Why is he still practicing? Why are the decision-makers still allowed to be around sporting clubs?

They dig themselves a deeper hole every time they have to answer a different body.

The AFL conveniently ignores it because it doesn't wan to risk blow back from Demetriou's actions...

Sad


I'm most interested in the line "without receiving proper consent from its players".

I'm taking the Herald Sun story at face value, but I can see how that might also have been used by the club and the players in their arguments in front of CAS. I could see the players giving evidence that they consented to being injected with various things that they checked were legal and were never told about and therefore never consented to any illegal supplements. Whether they were given illegal supplements or not (I could see them arguing) was unknown to them because all they thought they were being given was what Dank told them he was injecting them with, which, they thought, was the stuff they had checked with ASADA and been told was legal.

It's all supposition on my part, but I've believed all along that it is quite possible that if the players were injected with something illegal, it was without the players' and possibly the club's knowledge. It makes sense to me that any person providing the illegal injections wouldn't tell anyone that what he was using was illegal and that if he indeed did break the law, he did so to improve his own standing in the industry by "working miracles" with what he does. If that's the case, I still believe the provider of those illegal supplements should end up in gaol.

......and all those players who suddenly had muscles on their fingernails marched into the coaches and doctors and managers and VFLPA offices and said I'm gonna punch your lights out

and did. I reckon we would have heard about that little fracas if it indeed occurred.

On another tack, has anyone detected Essendon's draw for next year having the ability to be deleted without too much fuss for the rest of the competition?

From the Hun article:

"Essendon faces a maximum fine of $305,350 but no directors or club staff will be punished."

Just seems like a light touch for the Bombers. I can't believe in the industry I work in and companies I have worked for, if they did the same thing that no staff or directors would get off charges.

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......and all those players who suddenly had muscles on their fingernails marched into the coaches and doctors and managers and VFLPA offices and said I'm gonna punch your lights out

and did. I reckon we would have heard about that little fracas if it indeed occurred.

On another tack, has anyone detected Essendon's draw for next year having the ability to be deleted without too much fuss for the rest of the competition?

Could you elaborate?

From the Hun article:

"Essendon faces a maximum fine of $305,350 but no directors or club staff will be punished."

Just seems like a light touch for the Bombers. I can't believe in the industry I work in and companies I have worked for, if they did the same thing that no staff or directors would get off charges.

that penalty is a total waste of time.

But hopefully it opens the door for individual players to sue the joint with confidence...


Yes, I have not looked at the draw for next year but I am wondering if the AFL have built in minimum damage to the Competition upon the temporary demise

of another who shall not be named. This could be done by various means like diminished MCG allocation and home game quota etc etc

I'm most interested in the line "without receiving proper consent from its players".

I'm taking the Herald Sun story at face value, but I can see how that might also have been used by the club and the players in their arguments in front of CAS. I could see the players giving evidence that they consented to being injected with various things that they checked were legal and were never told about and therefore never consented to any illegal supplements. Whether they were given illegal supplements or not (I could see them arguing) was unknown to them because all they thought they were being given was what Dank told them he was injecting them with, which, they thought, was the stuff they had checked with ASADA and been told was legal.

It's all supposition on my part, but I've believed all along that it is quite possible that if the players were injected with something illegal, it was without the players' and possibly the club's knowledge. It makes sense to me that any person providing the illegal injections wouldn't tell anyone that what he was using was illegal and that if he indeed did break the law, he did so to improve his own standing in the industry by "working miracles" with what he does. If that's the case, I still believe the provider of those illegal supplements should end up in gaol.

Agree that this guilty plea as it stands looks to set the players up for the CAS hearing.... Don't agree that the club could be innocent at all & didnt know what was really being injected, not when there's no proper records.

But hopefully it opens the door for individual players to sue the joint with confidence...

Yup, thats where the real story is.

The flood gates will open now.

 

Yup, thats where the real story is.

The flood gates will open now.

The flood gates aren't quite open, this admission has the water spilling from the dam but the gates wont truly open until players are found guilty, get the popcorn ready for that one!

Agree that this guilty plea as it stands looks to set the players up for the CAS hearing.... Don't agree that the club could be innocent at all & didnt know what was really being injected, not when there's no proper records.

I dont see how it sets the players up?

End of they day they had banned substances in their body via black ops and off site injections... they were responsible.


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