Maybe Dawes could have elective surgery to have hands grafted to his shins, given that is where the ball seems to be delivered to him half the time.

Dawes isn't a superstar, and yes we paid overs for him. But he would be serviceable in most other sides as a second or 3rd tall. We have bigger problems than Dawes right now.

And for that he gets $700 000 PA?

I'm talking about Hogan 'old dee'.

He does the simple things well, that's why he's our number 1 forward.

Dawes rarely leads up to the ball and often doesn't make it to the contest, these things are not hard to do. Doing something when you get there is the hard part.

I'm talking about Hogan 'old dee'.

He does the simple things well, that's why he's our number 1 forward.

Dawes rarely leads up to the ball and often doesn't make it to the contest, these things are not hard to do. Doing something when you get there is the hard part.

Arr my error rjay sorry about that one

Dawes is an integral part of this club.

Must play every week.

I don't know about that, technically half our wins this year have been without him..

I don't know about that, technically half our wins this year have been without him..

True, but with a full list to choose from.

Frost.

Maybe Dawes could have elective surgery to have hands grafted to his shins, given that is where the ball seems to be delivered to him half the time.

Dawes isn't a superstar, and yes we paid overs for him. But he would be serviceable in most other sides as a second or 3rd tall. We have bigger problems than Dawes right now.

No he is part of the bigger problem.

Coming out to the media pretending to talk tough yet come game day he absolutely spuds it up. I wouldn't be surprise if the Hawks players were taking the [censored] out of him on Saturday.

If your going to dish out the talk be very willing to back it up on field. Which he didn't. Infact didn't even look remotely close to it. Even Roos was perplexed on what Dawes said.

He is a bloody leader of this footy that can't even do the basics right as a key forward. Even this year i have seen the ball lace out to him and he still drops them!

Collingwood are still laughing at us for going so hard at him. Has he delivered for this footy club? Absolutely not.

If the coaching selection is smart they will drop him this weekend for Hogan.

No he is part of the bigger problem.

Coming out to the media pretending to talk tough yet come game day he absolutely spuds it up. I wouldn't be surprise if the Hawks players were taking the [censored] out of him on Saturday.

If your going to dish out the talk be very willing to back it up on field. Which he didn't. Infact didn't even look remotely close to it. Even Roos was perplexed on what Dawes said.

He is a bloody leader of this footy that can't even do the basics right as a key forward. Even this year i have seen the ball lace out to him and he still drops them!

Collingwood are still laughing at us for going so hard at him. Has he delivered for this footy club? Absolutely not.

If the coaching selection is smart they will drop him this weekend for Hogan.

Collingwood went for Quentin Lynch to replace Dawes, I don't think they are really laughing.

No he is part of the bigger problem.

Coming out to the media pretending to talk tough yet come game day he absolutely spuds it up. I wouldn't be surprise if the Hawks players were taking the [censored] out of him on Saturday.

If your going to dish out the talk be very willing to back it up on field. Which he didn't. Infact didn't even look remotely close to it. Even Roos was perplexed on what Dawes said.

He is a bloody leader of this footy that can't even do the basics right as a key forward. Even this year i have seen the ball lace out to him and he still drops them!

Collingwood are still laughing at us for going so hard at him. Has he delivered for this footy club? Absolutely not.

If the coaching selection is smart they will drop him this weekend for Hogan.

Bet a buck?

I think when he was first traded to the club there was a void in leadership around the place which he helped to fill. But now we have others who have stepped up TMac being an example. On field he has been dissapointing, we can't keep just rolling out the "big body" "ties up a key defender" line each week. Teams no 1 defender will go to Hogan. I don't think he is providing a headache for opposition teams when doing their analysis of us. Would love to know how much is left on his contract for next year.

But yes we have injuries and next to no depth so......

Collingwood went for Quentin Lynch to replace Dawes, I don't think they are really laughing.

They got Tim Broomhead out of him who looks a fine young player and will have a good career at Collingwood.

We got a Forward who can't even do what forwards are suppose to do and thats mark a ball and kick a goal!

Oh but he talks tough..

Maybe Dawes could have elective surgery to have hands grafted to his shins, given that is where the ball seems to be delivered to him half the time.

Dawes isn't a superstar, and yes we paid overs for him. But he would be serviceable in most other sides as a second or 3rd tall. We have bigger problems than Dawes right now.

What use is he to us being decent in another side? He needs to be serviceable in our side. And he's not doing that at the moment.

Bet a buck?

Yep..

Don't worry i already know he won't get dropped which infuriates me.

Coming out to the media pretending to talk tough yet come game day he absolutely spuds it up. I wouldn't be surprise if the Hawks players were taking the [censored] out of him on Saturday.

If your going to dish out the talk be very willing to back it up on field. Which he didn't. Infact didn't even look remotely close to it. Even Roos was perplexed on what Dawes said.

I'm not defending Dawes but this type of revisionism is silly. Of course if he plays a shocker and we get smashed, the next week you can bag him for it. It's easy. You wouldn't be bagging him if he played well and won - but it's the same exact act from the week earlier, how does what happened in the game change that? Besides, are we such a s0ftcock club that we don't even want our players to talk confidently in the media, because we don't want to upset the monster that is Hawthorn? Imagine if Dawes said 'honestly, Hawthorn are just a class above us. The best we can hope for is a 10-goal loss but it is more likely to be 100'. Would you now be praising him for his accuracy?

Go ahead and critique his poor form but using some irrelevant media talk as ammo against him is just unfair and weak

I'm not defending Dawes but this type of revisionism is silly. Of course if he plays a shocker and we get smashed, the next week you can bag him for it. It's easy. You wouldn't be bagging him if he played well and won - but it's the same exact act from the week earlier, how does what happened in the game change that? Besides, are we such a s0ftcock club that we don't even want our players to talk confidently in the media, because we don't want to upset the monster that is Hawthorn? Imagine if Dawes said 'honestly, Hawthorn are just a class above us. The best we can hope for is a 10-goal loss but it is more likely to be 100'. Would you now be praising him for his accuracy?

Go ahead and critique his poor form but using some irrelevant media talk as ammo against him is just unfair and weak

Honestly i didn't expect him to play well. I just don't rate him at all. Since he has been at the club i haven't walked away from a game and thought "jeez how huge was Dawes today" i have no confidence when they kick it to him because when he drops it gets turned over.

I would rather him focus on getting a kick first before talking to any media outlets. But as i noted if he is going to come out with all the [censored] talk then he needs to back it up with his actions on field in which he failed to do.

Was the Adelaide game last year the last time Dawes impacted a game?

Bet a buck?

Yep..

Don't worry i already know he won't get dropped which infuriates me.

What's the mail you guys have that says he won't be dropped.

It would have to be a very good reason with Hogan right to come back in and Pedersen playing as well as he did last game.

Dawes' marking gets worse and worse, because he's allowed to get away with it by the coaching staff who see him as essential best 22.

Put Dawes and Watts in the forward 50 for 22 games - and I guarantee you Watts will kick more goals, take more marks and get more disposals.

Dawes must be really good at the intangibles, whatever those are, to keep getting picked.

Dawes' marking gets worse and worse, because he's allowed to get away with it by the coaching staff who see him as essential best 22.

Put Dawes and Watts in the forward 50 for 22 games - and I guarantee you Watts will kick more goals, take more marks and get more disposals.

Dawes must be really good at the intangibles, whatever those are, to keep getting picked.

Dawes has an uncanny knack of impacting the area when he gets there.

2 things the other bloke rarely does..

Dawes has an uncanny knack of impacting the area when he gets there.

2 things the other bloke rarely does..

Which is very rare 'jazz', he seems go where the ball aint...

Dawes has an uncanny knack of impacting the area when he gets there.

2 things the other bloke rarely does..

Yes, and I will never understand why this is a bigger priority than adding to the scoreboard and getting hands on the leather.

Which is very rare 'jazz', he seems go where the ball aint...

Thats why i wrote it.

DEVO - Whip it...

He could always be dropped to the MFC legal team.