15 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I reckon it was us that went cold on him. 

I think this is the case.

His manager last year made note that out of all Victorian club's we were the most vocal for his service but Prestia wanted to honour his contract.

This year we have heard nothing from the Dees in regards to Prestia which suggest to me that we have said thanks but no more stuffing us around, we are moving on to bigger and better things.(Clayton Oliver)

Prestia has had his chances over the journey to join us and be part of something special. 

1 minute ago, SaberFang said:

Let's hope the Hogan "mail" is as accurate.

Only 5 and a half months til we find out. 

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

So, in essence, Prestia is a mercenary chasing a buck? Because if we didn't go cold on him, that's the only reason he joins Richmond. 

Well let's be frank here, why the hell else would you go to Richmond except if they were insane enough to offer you $1M more over a contract? Especially if you had concerns about your ability to play football for much longer; I'd be setting up my superannuation fund as well.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I think this is the case.

His manager last year made note that out of all Victorian club's we were the most vocal for his service but Prestia wanted to honour his contract.

This year we have heard nothing from the Dees in regards to Prestia which suggest to me that we have said thanks but no more stuffing us around, we are moving on to bigger and better things.(Clayton Oliver)

Prestia has had his chances over the journey to join us and be part of something special. 

The post was from May 27 this year so something has changed since then. Richmond must have shat themselves and thrown bucket loads of cash at him.

Edited August 18, 20169 yr by Ethan Tremblay

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The post was from May 27 this year so something has changed since then. Richmond must have shat themselves and thrown bucket loads of cash at him.

Yep ET, I think this is the most likely scenario. Twelfthmond weren't staring into the abyss on May 27.

Edited August 18, 20169 yr by Akum

2 minutes ago, Akum said:

Yep ET, I think this is the most likely scenario. Twelfthmond weren't staring into the abyss on May 27.

Well if three consecutive straight-sets finals losses wasn't hint enough, it seems the abyss of 13th place hasn't hit home yet either.

Meh, we don't need anyways. We have Maynard now.

Prestia, Cloke and Yarran. Book your tickets to next years Grand Final now Toigers fans!

God Richmond are entertaining to watch sometimes. Targeting Cloke. Paying overs for Prestia. You never quite know what they'll conjure up next.

 

2 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

God Richmond are entertaining to watch sometimes. Targeting Cloke. Paying overs for Prestia. You never quite know what they'll conjure up next.

 

Don't forget Yarran! Boy, has he been a success!

On 8/12/2016 at 2:48 PM, mo64 said:

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

This from the guy who in late 2007 chose to join the basketcase Blues for a mega contract instead of accepting a lower offer from the Hawks who would go on to win 3 flags over the course of his Carlton career.

We are heading in the right direction for the first time in a long time. We still have one of the youngest lists in the AFL. We have accumulated perhaps the best pool of potentially elite self motivated talent this club has had in my lifetime. We have come an extraordinarily long way since Roos, Jackson et al took over. Next year I'll be disappointed if we don't play finals. This year I'm happy that that we have improved greatly again on the field and are in contention for the 8 with 2 games to go. 

53 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

So, in essence, Prestia is a mercenary chasing a buck? Because if we didn't go cold on him, that's the only reason he joins Richmond. 

Yep, I'd say he and his manager are trying to secure his future. Disappointing. I'd like to think I wouldn't do it in his place, but who knows?

1 hour ago, Akum said:

Is it possible, for example, that we offered him a stratified "incentive-based" contract where he's paid according to performance, while Toigs just offered him a flat wage irrespective of whether he plays or not? If it's reasonable money, he'd choose us, but if Toigs are offering insane money, then like Scully he'd be insane not to take it.

It's possible, but I'm inclined to think we just offered him less cash and possibly less years too.

Prestia would have had a better offer at tigerland, and lets be honest, his prospects of getting a run every week are increased at Punt Road compared with his prospects with us.

Frankly I think our inside midfielder stocks are perfectly fine without Prestia. Let's look for more aggressive outside run this trade period, and probably for half the cost (draft pick wise and salary cap wise).

I think the club had the decision between Oliver and Prestia last year, had he chosen to come to us. He honoured his contract, we took Oliver, the rest is history. Why bother pursuing him at that price one year later? Let him be a burden on another club's salary cap.

Edited August 18, 20169 yr by SaberFang

14 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Frankly I think our inside midfielder stocks are perfectly fine without Prestia. Let's look for more aggressive outside run this trade period, and probably for half the cost (draft pick wise and salary cap wise).

I think the club had the decision between Oliver and Prestia last year, had he chosen to come to us. He honoured his contract, we took Oliver, the rest is history. Why bother pursuing him at that price one year later? Let him be a burden on another club's salary cap.

I still think we need more midfield depth. If it's not Prestia, then we still need to be on the look out in the coming 2-3 years. As they say, midfields win premierships.

1 minute ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

I still think we need more midfield depth. If it's not Prestia, then we still need to be on the look out in the coming 2-3 years. As they say, midfields win premierships.

And hopefully, the more we improve, the easier to land free agents that don't cost us anything.

Prestia is a good player and will add something to the Tiges...but they still don't really understand their own list.

They may well push back into finals contention next year but if they're reliant on the likes of Prestia and surely not Cloke then they are going no further and just delaying the rebuild another few years.

The outside noise is rattling their cage.

You shouldn't make list decisions on this basis but they had to get him, the media and fan noise was just too great for them. After missing Treloar they had to get a name player over the line.

We are lucky we have Roos in charge of the FD.

PJ made a statement early on about him along the lines that he'd never met anyone who went about his business without any care for the outside noise. I would say PJ is similar. They set a direction and make decisions to make sure they reach their destination.

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

Prestia is a good player and will add something to the Tiges...but they still don't really understand their own list.

They may well push back into finals contention next year but if they're reliant on the likes of Prestia and surely not Cloke then they are going no further and just delaying the rebuild another few years.

The outside noise is rattling their cage.

You shouldn't make list decisions on this basis but they had to get him, the media and fan noise was just too great for them. After missing Treloar they had to get a name player over the line.

We are lucky we have Roos in charge of the FD.

PJ made a statement early on about him along the lines that he'd never met anyone who went about his business without any care for the outside noise. I would say PJ is similar. They set a direction and make decisions to make sure they reach their destination.

Excellent post. Agree with the implications of the first part that Toigs seem to think that they need just a top-up rather than a rebuild. They're still looking for the spectacular Hail-Mary punt to redeem them, without the hard work & pain of bottoming out.

And agree too with all your points about outside noise.

 

It's actually possible that Richmond could remain in the 7th-12th bracket for another ten years purely off topping up alone. They will most certainly never get close to a Grand Final, let alone a premiership, with the current core they have.

And they clearly have no intention of bottoming out and rebuilding from the ground up, despite how obvious their garbage list is for every non-Richmond supporter. 

It's going to be a glorious period of Anzac Eve matches in years to come; one that could rival Colonwood's QB record over us.

Edited August 18, 20169 yr by SaberFang

7 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

He got McDonald re-signing right. There's another 12 months worth of devoted disciples.  

 

Did he? Don't remember him posting that.

The only winner in this will be Dions bank account.

What a joke this club is turning into.

Gale comes out admitting that they compromised their recruiting strategies in order to not bottom out, costing themselves any realistic chance at going deep into finals......

Then someone comes up with a brilliant idea. Lets do the same thing AGAIN!

And Cloke?

Really?

 

On 5/27/2016 at 3:51 PM, Grand New Flag said:

My understanding is Dion will choose us. Hogan will re-sign along with McDonald.  We are unlikely to lose regular 22 by choice.  

As I have previously said, I will retire GNF if I am wrong.  This is the firm belief of our club.

 

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

 

Did he? Don't remember him posting that.

 

24 minutes ago, faultydet said:

What a joke this club is turning into.

Gale comes out admitting that they compromised their recruiting strategies in order to not bottom out, costing themselves any realistic chance at going deep into finals......

Then someone comes up with a brilliant idea. Lets do the same thing AGAIN!

And Cloke?

Really?

 

It's fantastic isn't it. The gift that keeps on giving.

Edited August 18, 20169 yr by Ethan Tremblay