Dion Prestia

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

On 6/25/2016 at 0:16 PM, ProDee said:

Happy to have anyone who improves us, although Prestia is probably too similar to Jones and Viney for my liking, but he's not presently A-grade. 

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Hard to think of two mids less like him. He's only playing the inside role right now because they've got so many injuries. And while he's not playing at an A grade level right now, he does have a history for a couple of years there of being elite in a number of areas. The big ones we need in particular. Don't let his current job fool you. He's a super outside player. Pace, endurance, kicking. He's a jet. 

[Gator 17,237]

52 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

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Hard to think of two mids less like him. He's only playing the inside role right now because they've got so many injuries. And while he's not playing at an A grade level right now, he does have a history for a couple of years there of being elite in a number of areas. The big ones we need in particular. Don't let his current job fool you. He's a super outside player. Pace, endurance, kicking. He's a jet. 

Too small and his kicking is unreliable.  

I don't see Prestia in a gun outside role.

Time will tell.

Edited June 27, 2016 by ProDee

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

16 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Too small and his kicking is unreliable.  

I don't see Prestia in a gun outside role.

Time will tell.

Fair enough. One man's trash etc.

I would say though that you don't need to see him in a gun outside role. He's already done it. We're not crystal balling here. 2013 and 2014 he played that role, and was averaging 25 and 27 touches a game those years. 2015 was the same til he was hurt, and he's not been too good since. Lost that extra yard and hasn't been too good disposal wise.

As far as kicking is concerned, I encourage you to have a close look at his delivery to forwards. Distance, shape and accuracy are what I see when he's not under an injury cloud, which he has been all year.

But as I say, to each their own.

[Gator 17,237]

2 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

Fair enough. One man's trash etc.

I would say though that you don't need to see him in a gun outside role. He's already done it. We're not crystal balling here. 2013 and 2014 he played that role, and was averaging 25 and 27 touches a game those years. 2015 was the same til he was hurt, and he's not been too good since. Lost that extra yard and hasn't been too good disposal wise.

As far as kicking is concerned, I encourage you to have a close look at his delivery to forwards. Distance, shape and accuracy are what I see when he's not under an injury cloud, which he has been all year.

But as I say, to each their own.

I always liked him, but this year his kicking has been off and he seems to have lost that spark from the years you mention, but it could be that he needs another preseason post his knee injury.

I always liked him as a player and I remember the years you're referring to well as he was prolific (and a Melbourne supporting player as a kid, so took notice).

I like my outside players to have a bit of height and be a good mark, but I dare say he'd play both an outside and inside role well.

With Brayshaw, Oliver, Viney, Tyson, Salem, Stretch, Petracca and Jones as a developing midfield I'd like more of a speedster to complement the group. But we may already have him in Hunt, who could be developed into that role.

I'm not against any player, who makes us better, so I'd happily have Prestia, but I think the need for him is less than it was.

[Redleg 40,127]

47 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Too small and his kicking is unreliable.  

I don't see Prestia in a gun outside role.

Time will tell.

Unfortunately I agree.

[Adam The God 29,338]

32 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I always liked him, but this year his kicking has been off and he seems to have lost that spark from the years you mention, but it could be that he needs another preseason post his knee injury.

I always liked him as a player and I remember the years you're referring to well as he was prolific (and a Melbourne supporting player as a kid, so took notice).

I like my outside players to have a bit of height and be a good mark, but I dare say he'd play both an outside and inside role well.

With Brayshaw, Oliver, Viney, Tyson, Salem, Stretch, Petracca and Jones as a developing midfield I'd like more of a speedster to complement the group. But we may already have him in Hunt, who could be developed into that role.

I'm not against any player, who makes us better, so I'd happily have Prestia, but I think the need for him is less than it was.

I don't necessarily disagree with everything you've said here, PD, but did you see his first two kicks to forwards yesterday? Only Watts and Petracca are capable of those bullet passes in our current team. His interrupted pre-season has certainly played havoc with his form, as he has been a little bit up and down this year, but in a couple of games this year (in an incredibly ordinary team), he's been one of the standouts.

[Gator 17,237]

29 minutes ago, AdamPleb said:

I don't necessarily disagree with everything you've said here, PD, but did you see his first two kicks to forwards yesterday? 

Only got to see a bit of the second half.

[dazzledavey36 52,737]

Well nothing new but Tim Watson pretty much said that he spoke to a club recruiter (I wonder who that might be....) and Prestia is pretty much on his way back to Melbourne.

[66frank 63]

Eade  is [censored] off that he won't sign on. Thus giving him less time on the ball, less time on the ground, playing him in differ any positions. He is the best midfielder they have behind only Ablett. He was very close to coming last year, only his loyalty  to his teammates stopped him, now it's loyalty to family which is kicking in. He is very close to his immediate and extended family. We can never have too many good midfielders. Richmond, the team I hate passionately is very hot for him, I would die if he went there! This is extremely reliable 100% true. 

[dazzledavey36 52,737]

13 minutes ago, 66frank said:

Eade  is [censored] off that he won't sign on. Thus giving him less time on the ball, less time on the ground, playing him in differ any positions. He is the best midfielder they have behind only Ablett. He was very close to coming last year, only his loyalty  to his teammates stopped him, now it's loyalty to family which is kicking in. He is very close to his immediate and extended family. We can never have too many good midfielders. Richmond, the team I hate passionately is very hot for him, I would die if he went there! This is extremely reliable 100% true. 

I wonder if we have gone cold on him Frank?

[66frank 63]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

I wonder if we have gone cold on him Frank?

Maybe, we're not in the same trading position as last year, having traded away our first round pick. We were "white-hot" after him but it wasn't the right time for him. Now, who knows? I know one thing, who ever gets him will get a class act both on field and off!

[dazzledavey36 52,737]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gold-coast/dion-prestia-yet-to-decide-on-his-playing-future-while-geelong-keen-on-gary-rohan/news-story/de52f76af12dc73b2473ef3a179b9120

[John Demonic 5,502]

38 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well nothing new but Tim Watson pretty much said that he spoke to a club recruiter (I wonder who that might be....) and Prestia is pretty much on his way back to Melbourne.

You're probably aware, but he obviously meant Victoria. For anyone that missed it and is now reading the name of our club and city.

Edited June 27, 2016 by johndemons

[dazzledavey36 52,737]

9 minutes ago, johndemons said:

You're probably aware, but he obviously meant Victoria. For anyone that missed it and is now reading the name of our club and city.

Yeah my bad, ment Melbourne the city.

[DV8 2,271]

2 hours ago, 66frank said:

Eade  is [censored] off that he won't sign on. Thus giving him less time on the ball, less time on the ground, playing him in differ any positions. He is the best midfielder they have behind only Ablett. He was very close to coming last year, only his loyalty  to his teammates stopped him, now it's loyalty to family which is kicking in. He is very close to his immediate and extended family. We can never have too many good midfielders. Richmond, the team I hate passionately is very hot for him, I would die if he went there! This is extremely reliable 100% true. 

Well we need him... tell the Tiges, that he's ours, & if they want to slug it out, we can & will oblige.

Eade is FOS.  great development coach.  But there is a lot of work to do up there, to turn things about.

la Pres best come home, to his favourite colours. otherwise he'll forever be in that 9th twilight zone.

[Moonshadow 17,499]

14 hours ago, 66frank said:

Eade  is [censored] off that he won't sign on. Thus giving him less time on the ball, less time on the ground, playing him in differ any positions. He is the best midfielder they have behind only Ablett. He was very close to coming last year, only his loyalty  to his teammates stopped him, now it's loyalty to family which is kicking in. He is very close to his immediate and extended family. We can never have too many good midfielders. Richmond, the team I hate passionately is very hot for him, I would die if he went there! This is extremely reliable 100% true. 

I've thought the same thing, plus it appears that Prestia is going at half rat power through games. Coming back from injury is one reason, but he just doesn't seem to have the intensity this year that he has previously. Different circumstances, but it reminds me of Chip's final year with us.

[Sir Why You Little 36,628]

Guy McKenna would be feeling cheated. He had that team hanging in there, even without a fit Ablett

What has Eade done apart from rip it apart?

He is not a Top Line Coach

[beelzebub 23,198]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Guy McKenna would be feeling cheated. He had that team hanging in there, even without a fit Ablett

What has Eade done apart from rip it apart?

He is not a Top Line Coach

[Sir Why You Little 36,628]

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Hahaha. Nothing last long on The Gold Coast...

[beelzebub 23,198]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Hahaha. Nothing last long on The Gold Coast...

the colours of the jumpers represent flames !!

[Sir Why You Little 36,628]

3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

the colours of the jumpers represent flames !!

And McDonald's Large Fries

[beelzebub 23,198]

Dion would be a pretty good pickup.. A big upgrade, let's be realistic .

What the mechanism is to get him here now ?  We'll know I expect soon enough

[Adam The God 29,338]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Dion would be a pretty good pickup.. A big upgrade, let's be realistic .

What the mechanism is to get him here now ?  We'll know I expect soon enough

The mechanism is a first round pick, which despite the speculation on here and in the media, we can in fact trade at the end of this year.

As long as we keep bringing in good young kids, I'm okay with us being strategic with our first round picks.

Edited June 28, 2016 by AdamPleb

[Lucifers Hero 38,979]

9 minutes ago, AdamPleb said:

The mechanism is a first round pick, which despite the speculation on here and in the media, we can in fact trade at the end of this year.

As long as we keep bringing in good young kids, I'm okay with us being strategic with our first round picks.

If he goes, GCS are said to want a top 10 pick. 

We can trade one in for 2016.  AF, which player(s) and to who would you trade to get it?  Based on current ladder positions the 2016 picks are:  1.  EFC.  2 Lions.  3 GCS.  4. Freo.  5. GWS (Coll 2015 pick).  6. Carl.  7. StK.  8. Rich.  9.  GCS (Melb 2015 pick).  10. Port

Our 2017 1st rnd pick (hopefully) will not be top 10 pick and the more we improve the less attractive to GCS. 

On a related note, GCS are said to want 2016 pick 1 and are prepared to trade their pick 3 plus 9 (from mfc in 2015) for it.  May well be very attractive to Ess or Lions, especially if they have quiet discussions as to who will go at pick 1 and 3... 

[daisycutter 29,319]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

If he goes, GCS are said to want a top 10 pick. 

We can trade one in for 2016.  AF, which player(s) and to who would you trade to get it?  Based on current ladder positions the 2016 picks are:  1.  EFC.  2 Lions.  3 GCS.  4. Freo.  5. GWS (Coll 2015 pick).  6. Carl.  7. StK.  8. Rich.  9.  GCS (Melb 2015 pick).  10. Port

Our 2017 1st rnd pick (hopefully) will not be top 10 pick and the more we improve the less attractive to GCS. 

On a related note, GCS are said to want 2016 pick 1 and are prepared to trade their pick 3 plus 9 (from mfc in 2015) for it.  May well be very attractive to Ess or Lions, especially if they have quiet discussions as to who will go at pick 1 and 3... 

these days it seems the player decides where he wants to go ("preferred club") and then the club to club dealing begins

we need to convince dion we are his "destination club" first