Looks a good group of solid leaders, without 'leaders-to-be' or 'leaders in training' which is not what your LG should be.

The LG is more important than the C and VC situation or who are in those roles but they have got those roles right too; Jones is a no-brainer and Dunn has turned himself into a solid and competitive player who also happens to be playing elite level HBF/FB play. Hopefully the false bravado and jumper punching are consigned to history...

(Capt.) & (v.c.)

Back to the way it should be.

Excellent

AFL website going ahead and noting that our leadership group contains three "recycled players" in the very first sentence of their article.

AFL website going ahead and noting that our leadership group contains three "recycled players" in the very first sentence of their article.

Well it is a fact!

I'm delighted that the leadership group contains only those who were standouts and no one was included who was a "maybe" deserved to be included.

Like positions in the team, the leadership group should pick itself and places need to be earned. The LG should not be about potential and future leaders - their time will come.

AFL website going ahead and noting that our leadership group contains three "recycled players" in the very first sentence of their article.

Yep. And it is the truth

What's the problem?

I like it!

Dunn has proven himself over a period of time, we all know what Crossy and Jones bring and Dawes has shown leadership in the forward line. H (finding it hard not to refer to him as Harry O so it's just H for now) really not sure on him although I suppose he is prepared to make a stand for what he believes in and actually glad to see Grimes remaining in the leadership group. Whilst he wants to concentrate on his own footy and has stepped down from the captaincy still has a role around training and within the club and if he gets back to his best footy it will be a bonus

Well it is a fact!

Would've prefered if they'd have used the term "new additions". After the Rodans, Gilles' and Byrnes' we've brought to the club, the term "recycled players" has an ugly sound to it nowadays. Saying that, guys like Cross, Lumumba and Dawes have brought more to the club than any previous "recycled players".

(Capt.) & (v.c.)

Back to the way it should be.

Excellent

Next you'll be wanting blazers .... oh wait a minute!

Next you'll be wanting blazers .... oh wait a minute!

Groan!

Yes I know you are smiling

Next you'll be wanting blazers .... oh wait a minute!

No..

On the Garland situation, he has been plagued with foot and ankle issues for the last two years, he is finally clear of them, as we keep acknowledging there is competition for spots, perhaps he does just want to concentrate on himself, he is still very vocal at training, if I get the chance I will ask him

Edited February 3, 201511 yr by The Devil Inside

Looks a good group of solid leaders, without 'leaders-to-be' or 'leaders in training' which is not what your LG should be.

The LG is more important than the C and VC situation or who are in those roles but they have got those roles right too; Jones is a no-brainer and Dunn has turned himself into a solid and competitive player who also happens to be playing elite level HBF/FB play. Hopefully the false bravado and jumper punching are consigned to history...

You are posting on a board that demands Watts get physical, and then you put this, every team needs a [censored] in defence, Dunny gets up forwards noses, you will notice he hardly ever gets reported, he knows how to do it just inside the letter of the law,, I don't want him to change

You are posting on a board that demands Watts get physical, and then you put this, every team needs a [censored] in defence, Dunny gets up forwards noses, you will notice he hardly ever gets reported, he knows how to do it just inside the letter of the law,, I don't want him to change

Me either Saty.

You are posting on a board that demands Watts get physical, and then you put this, every team needs a [censored] in defence, Dunny gets up forwards noses, you will notice he hardly ever gets reported, he knows how to do it just inside the letter of the law,, I don't want him to change

He has changed.

His on field behaviour has become better and it has coincided with his impressive form over the last two years.

The correlation is up to the individual to decide but he is more worried about 'beating' his opponent by getting the footy and he is the better player for it.

He has changed.

His on field behaviour has become better and it has coincided with his impressive form over the last two years.

The correlation is up to the individual to decide but he is more worried about 'beating' his opponent by getting the footy and he is the better player for it.

Take my word for it, he hasn't changed that much on match day, the rest of the defence love his in-your-face style, that is the one other thing I have noticed at training, he leads a defence that would die for each other, he is just 'playing' better and we notice that more now

Too bad if some are offended but I noticed the recycled players making up half the leadership group and simply decided it was a reflection of our poor recruiting in the past and dumb decision making such as making a pair of kids the co-captains.

Put another way, it reflects the very poor management that has been entrenched these past few years.

Too bad if some are offended but I noticed the recycled players making up half the leadership group and simply decided it was a reflection of our poor recruiting in the past and dumb decision making such as making a pair of kids the co-captains.

Put another way, it reflects the very poor management that has been entrenched these past few years.

Yep, and shows that we identified a deficiency and have taken steps to correct it.

I fail to see how having "recycled" players in the leadership group is a bad thing.

Too bad if some are offended but I noticed the recycled players making up half the leadership group and simply decided it was a reflection of our poor recruiting in the past and dumb decision making such as making a pair of kids the co-captains.

Put another way, it reflects the very poor management that has been entrenched these past few years.

It shows poor recruiting.

Too bad if some are offended but I noticed the recycled players making up half the leadership group and simply decided it was a reflection of our poor recruiting in the past and dumb decision making such as making a pair of kids the co-captains.

Put another way, it reflects the very poor management that has been entrenched these past few years.

It also means we now have a very youthful playing list, and we have turned over the list in a big way in the last couple of years

It also means we now have a very youthful playing list, and we have turned over the list in a big way in the last couple of years

Yep Got it one Saty.

Also accounts why for the first time in four years I have a little confidence we will be better this year.

great choices, a group of seasoned older players that lead by example. Another wise decision on top of many others since the end of 2014. We seem to be getting it right on so many levels.

I fail to see how having "recycled" players in the leadership group is a bad thing.

It's good and bad IMO.. the fact we have so few senior leaders that have grown up at the club is a terrible indictment - but on the other hand, the players we have chosen to import from other clubs have been fantastic choices

spot on

It's good and bad IMO.. the fact we have so few senior leaders that have grown up at the club is a terrible indictment - but on the other hand, the players we have chosen to import from other clubs have been fantastic choices

Agreed. It's a two sided coin.

That said, Dawes and Cross don't feel like ring ins to me anymore. They feel like Demons players, which is a credit to both of them.