Traded with pick 60 for pick 21.

Some epic VFL battles between Rhys Stanley and James Frawley next year.

So Stanley is worth pick 21 and Clark 34 apparently.

Not sure I follow that logic.

Geelong could at least have given us pick 60 to use on Frost.

This deal could have very well just locked in Petracca to us as St. Kilda may look to replace a tall now.

This deal could have very well just locked in Petracca to us as St. Kilda may look to replace a tall now.

Now they might look to take a tall with pick 1 in McCartin or wright.

If we can get Petracca and Brayshaw with pick 2 and 3 + 23. I know it's a longer route to success but that sounds pretty promising.

Now they might look to take a tall with pick 1 in McCartin or wright.

If we can get Petracca and Brayshaw with pick 2 and 3 + 23. I know it's a longer route to success but that sounds pretty promising.

yup. This is what im hoping for now that the Trenners thing fell apart.

Petracca Brayshaw combo looks the goods. Petracca is strong enough to play Round 1. Brayshaw maybe a little more time but he has some go about him, thats for sure.

Now they might look to take a tall with pick 1 in McCartin or wright.

If we can get Petracca and Brayshaw with pick 2 and 3 + 23. I know it's a longer route to success but that sounds pretty promising.

Here's hoping Hugh Goddard slips to pick 23, i reckon he will go alright as a CHB and would pair nicely with Frost at FB.

What makes everyone so sure Roos would play two draftees as anything but the sub next year? Hunt didn't play a single match, Salem was the sub about 6 times and JKH ran out of gas after the Adelaide match.

I know Salem had his illness, but the impact of two 18 year old midfielders will be negligent next year unless Roos changes his youth policy of developing in the seconds.

EDIT: For argument's sake these two would still be an improvement on several others on our list, but they'd be 2 or 3 years off building the tank Roos' game plan requires of all players.

Here's hoping Hugh Goddard slips to pick 23, i reckon he will go alright as a CHB and would pair nicely with Frost at FB.

No way. I have a friend who works down at the Falcons. Said he is extremely arrogant, over-rated and quite soft.

No way. I have a friend who works down at the Falcons. Said he is extremely arrogant, over-rated and quite soft.

Well, looks like arrogance runs in the family.

Hunt was never selected to come in and have an impact in his first year or two he has a very immature body, Salem and JKH I would Say had successful years and exceeded Roos expectations as he said early on he didn't expect either to play much senior footy in 2014.

Petracca is more ready made for the rigours of AFL in saying that We shouldn't expect these kids to come in and turn this club around, give them time to develop at their own rate it should be the more experienced players that are going to turn our fortunes around. This is where our club has gone wrong in the past putting to much pressure on these young kids to come in and dominate from the get go, it very rarely happens.

Edited October 15, 201411 yr by The Toump 5

This deal could have very well just locked in Petracca to us as St. Kilda may look to replace a tall now.

If I was the Saints I'd be trying to offload pick 1 to GWS for pick 4 and either 7 or a player. They'll still get either Wright or McCartin at 4 and GWS will take Petracca at 1.

I'm going against the grain on Stanley. Sure he's been ordinary this far in his career, played forward, back and ruck. But I think he'll be a great lead up forward for the cats and let Hawkins stay close to goal and Clark as well once he's fit - Geelong wont rush him. They are paying a heavy price but I think it's worth it.

I reckon the saints will still go Petracca, they'll find a forward or KPD late in the draft.

Josh Bruce can do Stanley's job or play the 2 rucks. Play Tom Lee, Membrey and Spencer White in the short term. Then they'll be right in the battle for Boyd next year.

If you aren't a long term player and you have value then you get traded by the saints. I like it.

I'm going against the grain on Stanley. Sure he's been ordinary this far in his career, played forward, back and ruck. But I think he'll be a great lead up forward for the cats and let Hawkins stay close to goal and Clark as well once he's fit - Geelong wont rush him. They are paying a heavy price but I think it's worth it.

I reckon the saints will still go Petracca, they'll find a forward or KPD late in the draft.

Josh Bruce can do Stanley's job or play the 2 rucks. Play Tom Lee, Membrey and Spencer White in the short term. Then they'll be right in the battle for Boyd next year.

If you aren't a long term player and you have value then you get traded by the saints. I like it.

I don't rate him 'Georgiou', I think he's more athlete than footballer and really has no idea of how to play the game. Reminds me a lot of 'Picketts' mate, he will be a long term tease.

If I was the Saints I'd be trying to offload pick 1 to GWS for pick 4 and either 7 or a player. They'll still get either Wright or McCartin at 4 and GWS will take Petracca at 1.

If I was the Saints I'd be trying to offload pick 1 to GWS for pick 4 and either 7 or a player. They'll still get either Wright or McCartin at 4 and GWS will take Petracca at 1.

They'll have to give up pick 4 for Griffen.

They'll have to give up pick 4 for Griffen.

Maybe, depends what happens there. They're refusing to entertain the idea of trading Boyd and Griffen is incommunicado pigshooting in rural SA. It's conceivable the Doggies could play hard ball and refuse to trade Griffen out or demand a player in return.

This deal could have very well just locked in Petracca to us as St. Kilda may look to replace a tall now.

That's what I keep coming back to. With an ageing FF and no fantastic others and you clear a tall forward, why would you take a mid over a highly regarded KPF, if you had the chance.

Still time for them to trade 1 though.

I don't rate him 'Georgiou', I think he's more athlete than footballer and really has no idea of how to play the game. Reminds me a lot of 'Picketts' mate, he will be a long term tease.

I would say that Georgio is a footballer first and foremost and not particularly athletically gifted. The problem is he is not probably a good enough footballer.

Funny how two people can have diametrically opposed points of view from watching the same bloke play

That's what I keep coming back to. With an ageing FF and no fantastic others and you clear a tall forward, why would you take a mid over a highly regarded KPF, if you had the chance.

Still time for them to trade 1 though.

Despite their need for tall forwards, the Saints have announced that they won't be trading pick 1 and their likely selection is Perracca. Make of that what you will given that we've already seen a couple of 360 degree turns by clubs this week.

Josh Mahoney has stated the club won't be trading 2 & 3 and, after GWS claimed three of the next four picks, it's unlikely that they would need to trade to improve just one spot.

It's Brayshaw at 2 and your guess at 3 ...

Meanwhile Geelong's strategy appears somewhat strange. They've lost two midfielders and delisted a few smart movers and replaced them with Clark and Stanley.

Pick 21 for Rhys? He's a spud.

Pick 21 for Rhys? He's a spud.

Pretty much. We should see if Geelong will give us a second round pick for Fitzpatrick as well.

Considering we've picked up the likes of Dawes and Vince with a similar pick its massive overs.

The market has overshifted in regards to draft pick value, Stanley for 21 is downright mad but in this climate seems to have been greeted with little shock.