Maybe we can do a trade of pick 12 for Beams in the closing minutes of the draft?

Not sure how that works when Collingwood nocked back a deal from Brisbane of pick 5 & 20 something?

Edited October 11, 201411 yr by Roosy's Bruisers

Exactly. If we give up on the draft because of past failings we must throw in the towel now. Look at Richmond and Port- they were rubbish and although it could be argued the tigs still are, they did some good recruiting after some horrible results and they are a better team than we are currently.

What if Port gave up on the draft and didn't get Wingard or Wines or Grey etc

Who's 'given up' on the draft? How silly.

Some people, myself included, do not hold the view that stocking up on draft picks and drafting tonnes of new kids is the right way to win our next flag. That was the view that most of us held in 2007-2009. It doesn't work.

But that of course doesn't mean we just stop using the draft.

No shite

The AFL website suggests that North are holding out on trading Levi Greenwood to the Pies because they want a lower Round 2 pick than the Pies can offer (30). We have 23 and there is only one pick lower than ours. Thoughts?

p.s. Hopefully we get a replacement Round 2 pick from the Cattery in the reputed three Club trade involving Mitch, Varcoe and HL!

Edited October 11, 201411 yr by CBDees

The AFL website suggests that North are holding out on trading Levi Greenwood to the Pies because they want a lower Round 2 pick than the Pies can offer (30). We have 23 and there is only one pick lower than ours. Thoughts?

Good to see teams not just letting go of their players for unders because they've "nominated" a preferred club, even if they don't have the currency to offer a fair trade. Except GWS, who stupidly accepted steak knives for O'Rourke.

Wish we'd done the same for Clark.

Edited October 11, 201411 yr by Lamashtu

Good to see teams not just letting go of their players for unders because they've "nominated" a preferred club, even if they don't have the currency to offer a fair trade. Except GWS, who stupidly accepted steak knives for O'Rourke.

Wish we'd done the same for Clark.

See my edited post!

Giving up Varcoe is giving up peanuts for Geelong, when they're getting a freaking near-AA forward in Clark. I'll be much happier if we get pick 33 + Lamumba from the deal.

Otherwise they're getting away with murder.

Good to see teams not just letting go of their players for unders because they've "nominated" a preferred club, even if they don't have the currency to offer a fair trade. Except GWS, who stupidly accepted steak knives for O'Rourke.

Wish we'd done the same for Clark.

Giving up Varcoe is giving up peanuts for Geelong, when they're getting a freaking near-AA forward in Clark. I'll be much happier if we get pick 33 + Lamumba from the deal.

Otherwise they're getting away with murder.

I've not seen anywhere that we've accepted Geelong's offer. I doubt it's going to be the 3 way trade many have been talking about. More likely to at least be the pick 21 they are getting from Brisbane.

i must say I am not a big fan of us giving two picks to pickup a player, i.e. for dangerfield or beams. I would prefer they go after Levi and others wanting to move or save the pick for the draft.

A week ago everyone was throwing around trades like pick 3 + Trenners for Dangerfield as the best deal in town.

Now it's sacrilege?

I don't think people are saying that at all, everyone has a price, he has been very loyal to us in darkest of times, IMO the feeling others could have gone in this trade possibly, but I understand it is Richmond who made the first move.

I will not like Trengove to the Tigers for Pick 12, but if we get an A-Grader in a package trade for that deal I can deal with it. But 23 and Trenners for Pick 12 I think is the issue

I don't think people are saying that at all, everyone has a price, he has been very loyal to us in darkest of times, IMO the feeling others could have gone in this trade possibly, but I understand it is Richmond who made the first move.

I will not like Trengove to the Tigers for Pick 12, but if we get an A-Grader in a package trade for that deal I can deal with it. But 23 and Trenners for Pick 12 I think is the issue

In reality Trenners has been a bit of a spare richard for a few years now. No guarantee he has come back from his latest op so its time to trade.

27&28 trade in th last two trade periods. I'm guessing next week will be a busy week.

Let's hope Dangerfield & Beams comes our way.. Or if that doesn't eventuate then I'd be happy with Petracca & Brayshaw.

GWS will still be wanting early picks so they guarantee Petracca so they need to deal with us or StKilda or both. For stKilda to give up pick one they need to give them a big forward like the one they are likely to miss if they trade down to pick 4. So probably easier for GWS to trade with us as they can also cover Frost in the same deal.

Re the Clarke deal we should do this with Geelong by ourselves get a draft pick and be done with it, then collingwood can chase us to do the swap for HL, if they dont we hopefully have another good draft pick and collingwood have to continue to paying HL

GWS will still be wanting early picks so they guarantee Petracca so they need to deal with us or StKilda or both. For stKilda to give up pick one they need to give them a big forward like the one they are likely to miss if they trade down to pick 4. So probably easier for GWS to trade with us as they can also cover Frost in the same deal.

Re the Clarke deal we should do this with Geelong by ourselves get a draft pick and be done with it, then collingwood can chase us to do the swap for HL, if they dont we hopefully have another good draft pick and collingwood have to continue to paying HL

As Pies can't sign Varcoe until Beams goes, because of salary cap, they clearly need to get rid of HL quickly.

That should give us some leverage.

GWS will still be wanting early picks so they guarantee Petracca so they need to deal with us or StKilda or both. For stKilda to give up pick one they need to give them a big forward like the one they are likely to miss if they trade down to pick 4. So probably easier for GWS to trade with us as they can also cover Frost in the same deal.

Re the Clarke deal we should do this with Geelong by ourselves get a draft pick and be done with it, then collingwood can chase us to do the swap for HL, if they dont we hopefully have another good draft pick and collingwood have to continue to paying HL

I think it will be the Christiansen pick.

If Buckley flew to freaking Bali to meet Varcoe you can assume they're pretty serious about the trade. ;P

If Buckley flew to freaking Bali to meet Varcoe you can assume they're pretty serious about the trade. ;P

Or he needs to get his frequent flyer points up and at least he ain't on the melatonin. ..

If Buckley flew to freaking Bali to meet Varcoe you can assume they're pretty serious about the trade. ;P

Im pretty sure they were just there at the same time by co incidence

Im pretty sure they were just there at the same time by co incidence

Yes out of the thousands of Islands that make up the Indonesian Archipelago, l guess that you are right! I suppose that they happened to book into the same restaurant on the same night?

Edited October 11, 201411 yr by CBDees

Yes out of the thousands of Islands that make up the Indonesian Archipelago, l guess that you are right! I suppose that they happened to book into the same restaurant on the same night?

Given there was an article that said we had to wait for a 3 day turnaround for Buckley to fly there and back, I'm inclined to agree with your sentiment.

Edited October 11, 201411 yr by Lamashtu

In reality Trenners has been a bit of a spare richard for a few years now. No guarantee he has come back from his latest op so its time to trade.

and there are no guarantees he hasn't, he will give everything he has for the club and that is a valuable commodity in my book whilst I accept he has currency and it is a ruthless business there are other players on our list I would have in the queue out the door before Jack

and there are no guarantees he hasn't, he will give everything he has for the club and that is a valuable commodity in my book whilst I accept he has currency and it is a ruthless business there are other players on our list I would have in the queue out the door before Jack

I fully agree with you however the reality is that there are few on our list that would similarly command pick 12 that we would wish to get rid of (e.g. N. Jones, Tyson, etc)!

I fully agree with you however the reality is that there are few on our list that would similarly command pick 12 that we would wish to get rid of (e.g. N. Jones, Tyson, etc)!

In no universe do I give up Nathan Jones or Dom Tyson for pick 12.

In no universe do I give up Nathan Jones or Dom Tyson for pick 12.

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