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Posted (edited)

I can't believe anyone is defending MC. Those who suggest MFC pushed him out and do not want him are delusional.

From the outside MFC seem to have just accepted it as a fait accompli though. Cut the losses & move on.

Edit - spelling. Good effort in a two sentence post !

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I can't believe anyone is defending MC. Those who suggest MFC pushed him out and do not want him are delusional.

That might be true GNF but what have you heard the MFC will get as compo.

I was [censored] at first when the MC news came out (he was our best player) but if we get close to fair compensation I'll be happy (considering we should have got nothing with him retiring).... Don't need his issues at the club anyway

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That might be true GNF but what have you heard the MFC will get as compo.

I was [censored] at first when the MC news came out (he was our best player) but if we get close to fair compensation I'll be happy (considering we should have got nothing with him retiring).... Don't need his issues at the club anyway

I have heard nothing except they have no interest in Varcoe....... which I think was made public anyway.

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I have heard nothing except they have no interest in Varcoe....... which I think was made public anyway.

Cool

THanks mate, do appreciate your contribution on what you hear - makes Demonland worth all the effort

Edited by Unleash Hell
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Posted

You're right.

This soft club should crumble and retire a revered number because one sh*t bloke for a short time was here on a fat contract, then p*ssed off for easy wins elsewhere.

Or maybe not?

Christ, some people are so bloody precious.

Move on FFS.

Haha you really are a ball sack aren't you.

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I can't believe anyone is defending MC. Those who suggest MFC pushed him out and do not want him are delusional.

It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we?

I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

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It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we?

I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

How do you know we didn't fight very hard to keep him?

Posted

How do you know we didn't fight very hard to keep him?

what makes you think we did ? just curious

Posted

It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we?

I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

Don't agree on this at all 'rp', Clark would be an enormous help in the midfield. A winning ruck who can get a lot of his own ball would be invaluable.

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How do you know we didn't fight very hard to keep him?

It's October 2 and not only are we fine with him leaving, we have been for a few weeks now, he already has a nominated club, we have been allowing him to talk to clubs, again, for a few weeks now, and Mahoney has already said we are happy to facilitate a trade to Geelong.

None of this smacks of the club trying very hard to keep a bloke.

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what makes you think we did ? just curious

I have no idea, but if you believe GNF, we always wanted him to stay and expected him to return to us and us only.

No doubt we were bitterly disappointed to find out that he wanted out and I'm sure we tried to make him stay. It might have just been a case of being told "not gonna happen", in which case what do you do?

We had him training with club fitness staff under a program designed for him personally. You don't do that for a player you don't try hard to keep.

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Don't agree on this at all 'rp', Clark would be an enormous help in the midfield. A winning ruck who can get a lot of his own ball would be invaluable.

You want to put that bloke in the ruck? The last place I would put that bloke is in the most physically demanding position on the ground.

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You want to put that bloke in the ruck? The last place I would put that bloke is in the most physically demanding position on the ground.

Yeah I would, he's either fit to play or he's not. He was robbed of AA honours the year he played there for Brisbane and I can guarantee Geelong will use him in the ruck for a fair degree of time particularly if Vardy comes back.

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I have no idea, but if you believe GNF, we always wanted him to stay and expected him to return to us and us only.

No doubt we were bitterly disappointed to find out that he wanted out and I'm sure we tried to make him stay. It might have just been a case of being told "not gonna happen", in which case what do you do?

We had him training with club fitness staff under a program designed for him personally. You don't do that for a player you don't try hard to keep.

I think all the way through til we found out otherwise the club was very much behind Mitch. I think though that we were just doing the right thing for a long whiles without really thinking he would , well, do what he has. I think the club thought, if he recovers he'l want to rejoin. Got that wrong obviously. Seems the Club thought one thing , the player another

I can only deduce the club was well and truly blindsided, a nd quite late in the piece at which point the club changed its position.

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Just tell me what we are getting.

Nothing else concerns me anymore.

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It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we?

I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

Roos once blindsided was furious. I think it is fair to say at this point Roos wanted nothing more to do with him except for extracting the best trade for him.

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Roos once blindsided was furious. I think it is fair to say at this point Roos wanted nothing more to do with him except for extracting the best trade for him.

So he didn't try very hard to keep him?

Posted

It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we?

I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

post-rationalisation at its worst

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Haha you really are a ball sack aren't you.

A ball sack? What are you, 14?

And ignorant, if you don't get my point.

It's October 2 and not only are we fine with him leaving, we have been for a few weeks now, he already has a nominated club, we have been allowing him to talk to clubs, again, for a few weeks now, and Mahoney has already said we are happy to facilitate a trade to Geelong.

None of this smacks of the club trying very hard to keep a bloke.

Good points.

Compare it to Collingwood with Beams.

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I can't believe anyone is defending MC. Those who suggest MFC pushed him out and do not want him are delusional.

GNF, I refuse at least at this point in time to abuse MC.

You apparently have a good contact at the club.

ATM I don't know what happened to see him leaving us.

I can picture at least 6 scenarios.

What I do know is that the club, at least publicly, has said or done nothing to try and keep him. Even Roos on 360 had a perfect opportunity to just say he would like him to stay, but refused 3 times when asked to do so.

Given the above circumstances how can you accuse people who suggest that the MFC pushed him out and don't want him, as being delusional. That is a pretty fair conclusion to draw.

If somebody at some stage sets the record straight, we will at least all know. Do you want to do that, or do you not know either?

Posted

post-rationalisation at its worst

You may think that, but why would Roos be so quick to move on?

If he was 'blindsided' - he certainly changed gears quickly.

We all have our own theories - mine is along the lines of: we wanted to keep him at a very reduced rate, or even on the Rookie List, and were expecting that to happen or him not to play football anymore, after he decided he didn't want either of those options, the club moved on very quickly from that. I think they moved on quickly because they know that the longshot he can revive his career isn't worth fighting for. Now it is all about getting something back from this awful scenario.

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Posted

From the outside MFC seem to have just accepted it as a fait accompli though. Cut the losses & move on.

Edit - spelling. Good effort in a two sentence post

And 2 languages!

Posted

yeah just hope the trade gets one early, and we get something good

and then wait for the funny news in the coming months that Clark has broken down at Cats training

And boned Selwood's missus.

Posted

Selwood v Clark...Now I would pay to see that.

I would too, providing Selwood belted the fcuk out of him. And that says a lot given my opinion of Selwood.

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