http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-26/honeychurch-to-stir-the-pot

Griffen and Roughead confirmed out

They are also missing Cooney and Gia

We simply have NO excuses this week. We must win.

Can still see the Doggies running rings around us on their turf.

But agree with NO excuses!

Can still see the Doggies running rings around us on their turf.

But agree with NO excuses!

Since they started playing together, I can't recall a game where neither Cooney or Griffen played against us.

Can still see the Doggies running rings around us on their turf.

But agree with NO excuses!

so which one is it ?

Blease end has come if your name is in the best every week which he has, I hope roos does not forsake all attack for only defence even the hawks have attacks that don't defend

Blease end has come if your name is in the best every week which he has, I hope roos does not forsake all attack for only defence even the hawks have attacks that don't defend

I can't see how the five named ins will be much good after they have payed the Casey game. Takes a long time to get from Casey Fields to Etihad. Why do they do this? All are named in the Casey team as well as the Dees.

It sucks that Cross won't be playing against his old club. The supporters still love him, i believe...

I can't see how the five named ins will be much good after they have payed the Casey game. Takes a long time to get from Casey Fields to Etihad. Why do they do this? All are named in the Casey team as well as the Dees.

Only 40 posts so I'm not sure if you are serious or not?

The extended bench are usually name for Casey until selection is finalised. As the dees train tomorrow they probably haven't even finalised the teams yet and if they have they aren't confirmed until 5pm tomorrow.

Well Garland didn't have a pre-season, is coming off surgery and he's missed a lot of the game time where the other defenders were gelling with the game plan.

Don't have a problem if he's not contributing as much as the others, but he's not going to find form and build his knowledge of Roosy's defensive gameplan at the Casey wasteland.

It's more his decision making that's been ordinary. I love him, but missing a pre season shouldn't decrease your ability to make the correct decision. I think if anything, he is taking time to adjust to the Roos game plan.

would be great if Dom Barry got selected

Literally nobody saw that coming

Not sure about that...

Or are we going to get a smokey and see Barry..?

Dom Barry: Dom played wing and had eight possessions. He had a negating run-with role on Sam Iles, who has been averaging around 30 possessions per week. Dom did a very, very good job. He was disciplined, stuck to his task and tried to run both ways. Dom also kept his opponent to little to no impact on the day. It was a good effort.

Blease end has come if your name is in the best every week which he has, I hope roos does not forsake all attack for only defence even the hawks have attacks that don't defend

No, they don't. There is no defensive liability for hawthorn. Whilst I know you are thinking of hill and smith their defensive presence is clear in every match. Both have enormous engines and are able to support two way running, meaning they can run ridiculously hard forward as they are able to match these efforts back.

Blease does not defend but the fact he often ignores team mates in better positions running himself into trouble

No, they don't. There is no defeunsive liability for hawthorn. Whilst I know you are thinking of hill and smith their defensive presence is clear in every match. Both have enormous engines and are able to support two way running, meaning they can run ridiculously hard forward as they are able to match these efforts back.

Blease does not defend but the fact he often ignores team mates in better positions running himself into trouble

No I was thinking of suckling who has had 1 tackle in 3 weeks.

Edited June 26, 201411 yr by not angry anymore

No, they don't. There is no defensive liability for hawthorn. Whilst I know you are thinking of hill and smith their defensive presence is clear in every match. Both have enormous engines and are able to support two way running, meaning they can run ridiculously hard forward as they are able to match these efforts back.

Blease does not defend but the fact he often ignores team mates in better positions running himself into trouble

Yeah i get you. But they have players that are incredibly offensive with probably less defence in their game.. I just think that it would be really good to have Blease in the forward pocket putting on pressure and winning the ball himself.

Hi all, ? Being fairly fresh to this site. How do I start a new thread? I've got family friends who are western bulldog supporters/ player sponsors etc who have told me that bar 1 stand, all the profits made from merchandise at Etihad goes to essendon football club. This is part of Essendons agreement with Etihad. Need to get the word out there to hold off buying your kid a jumper this weekend if you go to the match

No I was thinking of suckling who has had 1 tackle in 3 weeks.

Granted, but I still think you underestimate the defensive side of his game as a club like hawthorn wouldn't allow players to not play a defensive role considering he plays off the half back and wing.

That said the player roles aren't really comparable, but I would think that suckling is pretty switched on to grabbing an opppnent when the ball is in the oppositions hands.

Yeah i get you. But they have players that are incredibly offensive with probably less defence in their game.. I just think that it would be really good to have Blease in the forward pocket putting on pressure and winning the ball himself.

I get that, but the problem is he doesn't put on pressure, personally I think Kent, Salem, JKH are ahead of him for that position and even Byrnes was when fit.

Both decision making and skills can deteriorate as you tire. Google the relationship between motor skills and physical fitness - a plethora of research on it.

Yes they are.

Why do players practice? What about if you miss it for a few months?

What happens late in games to one's skills?

I cannot believe that you, the self appointed king of Rational Demonland is going to sit there and say that missing part of the Pre-season (and the season) through injury would not affect a players skill execution...

We all get frustrated by the plethora of excuses but sometimes there are 'reasons' for things and it is best to attempt to determine which is which if you want to make good decisions about player retention, etc.

There's a line in my post above that I should have re-written..

Of course fatigue will effect decision making and skills.

However, for Garland, and the examples I can remember, none of them were in the second half of the match and they were decisions made and skills executed where there was time and space afforded to him.

Those particular errors were not from a lack of fitness. They were from a lack of ability to some degree. Made to standout because many players that day were making similar errors.

Tom Mac out Tapscott in squad

Liam Jones out, Fletcher Roberts in.

Who?

Liam Jones out, Fletcher Roberts in.

Who?

Ahhh good ol' Robbo...

If I didn't know any better, I'd say this game smells awfully tanky.

Edited June 27, 201411 yr by Deestroy All

Getting the feeling that the shackles should come off this sunday and we'll start to score... repeatedly.

Liam Jones out, Fletcher Roberts in.

Who?

Grant not Jones. Damnit.

Dom Barry to make his debut

Dom Barry to make his debut

Sandra Sully with the late news.

You obviously didn't see Nicholsons game on the ABC last week.

So I'm pretty sure Nicho is in the team for Riley?

Am I right? We know what he has dished up in the past.. Lets see if Roos can make something of Nicho, has worked for Pedo & Jetta!

Edited June 27, 201411 yr by Laces Out

You obviously didn't see Nicholsons game on the ABC last week.

I did his kicking is getting worse.

Ahhh good ol' Robbo...

If I didn't know any better, I'd say this game smells awfully tanky.

Grant not Jones. Damnit.

Sorry.

And yes, the Dogs are trying to lose this game.

2 new players, lots of kids, but do they know who they are playing?

lol

Two teams might be frustrated Sunday evening...