Christian Salem

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

The kick from the boundary under pressure to hit Bail (I think) running into an open goal was an absolute gem. And the dragging the ball down one hand was pretty good too.

Amazing what a solid game plan, good drafting and a renowned coach can do for a club.

I'm interested in the question of the gameplan and this particular example of play. Salem's pass was executed perfectly and Bail was in the perfect position to make the most of it. However, if this had been early 2013, would Bail have been running into goal or would the coach's instructions have had him sitting on his man to defend the space? (Note: This is a serious question and not intended to be used to criticise Neeld. I just want to get a better understanding of how the gameplan has actually changed.)

[Moonshadow 17,677]

Joel Selwood was amazing in his first year. If Salem gets anywhere near that by year's end I'll be happy.

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

I'm interested in the question of the gameplan and this particular example of play. Salem's pass was executed perfectly and Bail was in the perfect position to make the most of it. However, if this had been early 2013, would Bail have been running into goal or would the coach's instructions have had him sitting on his man to defend the space? (Note: This is a serious question and not intended to be used to criticise Neeld. I just want to get a better understanding of how the gameplan has actually changed.)

No you are right one of Roh Bail's instructions is to use his running ability, but he has to go both ways, and he has to impact the scoreboard, which he is now doing on a regular basis

[Machsy 2,858]

I'm interested in the question of the gameplan and this particular example of play. Salem's pass was executed perfectly and Bail was in the perfect position to make the most of it. However, if this had been early 2013, would Bail have been running into goal or would the coach's instructions have had him sitting on his man to defend the space? (Note: This is a serious question and not intended to be used to criticise Neeld. I just want to get a better understanding of how the gameplan has actually changed.)

I don't think Bail would be defending space when we were in possession of the footy.

I know Salem had to freakishly win that 1on1 contest, but it was kicked to him by a teammate.

I'd say the difference is in confidence and clarity of what is expected of you.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

I don't think Bail would be defending space when we were in possession of the footy.

I know Salem had to freakishly win that 1on1 contest, but it was kicked to him by a teammate.

I'd say the difference is in confidence and clarity of what is expected of you.

Yes, a gameplan's not much use of it's not clear. I recall reading somewhere (Demonland?) that it was claimed that under the previous regime players they were getting mixed messages from the different coaches.

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Yes, a gameplan's not much use of it's not clear. I recall reading somewhere (Demonland?) that it was claimed that under the previous regime players they were getting mixed messages from the different coaches.

No that was a myth created on Demonland to justify certain postings, that's in the past, look forward to the QB

[Pates 9,660]

He looks an absolute gem, but the difference between now and previous periods in our club history is that Roos and co. aren't going to overload him. They'll keep adding to his load in small doses and let him develop in his own way.

There's something about him that screams "pure footballer".

[dazzledavey36 55,318]

No that was a myth created on Demonland to justify certain postings, that's in the past, look forward to the QB

Wasnt a myth as James Magner confirmed last year.

Dont let truth get in the way though..

[Machsy 2,858]

No that was a myth created on Demonland to justify certain postings, that's in the past, look forward to the QB

Right... Not sure if serious.

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Wasnt a myth as James Magner confirmed last year.

Dont let truth get in the way though..

Oh you mean Magner the guy who didn't have an axe to grind, just like Moloney, give it a rest, move on, the same Magner who wallowed in self satisfaction when Neeld was axed, sank in my estimation from that moment on

Edited June 4, 2014 by Satyriconhome

[rjay 25,087]

No that was a myth created on Demonland to justify certain postings, that's in the past, look forward to the QB

It was really created by Roos but as you say 'Sat' it is in the past. Looking forward to QB and beyond.

Edited June 4, 2014 by rjay

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

It was really created by Roos.

Gold

Edited June 4, 2014 by Satyriconhome

[JimmyNP 174]

Seriously how classy is this bloke? I love the look of him already. The balance, composure, and nous to find Bail without making him break stride was brilliant.

Little moments like that early on in a young footballers career and you know he will be a gun. Then the hardness to bump Ebert and make space for Toumpas, to then finish off, showed the level head at that stage of the game.

I can't believe people who were questioning the deal. Tyson and Salem individually will be better footballers then Kelly IMO. Let alone both of them together.

Guns.

[nutbean 8,838]

Oh you mean Magner the guy who didn't have an axe to grind, just like Moloney, give it a rest, move on, the same Magner who wallowed in self satisfaction when Neeld was axed, sank in my estimation from that moment on

I do wonder if the message or instruction to the players now is much simpler now and more narrow in focus. Three of 4 clear things to do and thats it ?

From your insight would you think that is fair comment ?

[Machsy 2,858]

I'm positive I've heard current players talk about the clarity of their roles under Roos.

Watts? Jamar?

You're trying to defend the indefensible again Saty.

Oh dear.

[rpfc 28,769]

The game plan he arrives with at Melbourne is not a surprise, and yet it has surprised his suspicious players who were disarmed by his insistence that there was only one game plan. They heard his words, but remained circumspect, waiting for the sting in the tail.

“They keep asking me, 'So 90 per cent will be us [what we do]?' “Yeah, yeah, yeah,” he laughs, explaining his task of convincing the sceptics. “So that was a big thing in their minds that they wanted to stand for something as a player group.

“That was a real key focus, reinforcing to them 'We will do this'. They'd ask, 'Will we do it against every team?' And we'd be, 'Yeah, we will do it against every team, it will change slightly, but yes'. And they'd be like, 'Oh, OK'.”

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-coach-paul-roos-shocked-by-demons-scars-20140207-327i4.html#ixzz33eFQN500

Multiple gameplans is a form of mixed messaging...

And it is simply confidence that Bail got on the end of that kick. Ability of both players to see it as a possibility (because what the hell was that?), and confidence.

[nutbean 8,838]

And it is simply confidence that Bail got on the end of that kick. Ability of both players to see it as a possibility (because what the hell was that?), and confidence.

It looked pretty instinctive to me too.

[What 18,810]

That kick to Bail was something special, especially the way he trapped and controlled the awkward incoming ball before hand

Strength, balance, amazing vision, incredible skill

Havent seen a kick that sublime this season by any player from any club

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

That kick to Bail was something special, especially the way he trapped and controlled the awkward incoming ball before hand

Strength, balance, amazing vision, incredible skill

Havent seen a kick that sublime this season by any player from any club

reminded me a little of Stevie J, you just sit there and think, WOW

[KingDingAling 3,758]

One out of the box.

[dee-tox 4,835]

Like blokes that have an interest in boxing before they are drafted. Not being physically intimidated is a big thing for a kid trying to make his way in the game.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

Does he also kick well on his non-preferred? I haven't seen the PA game and I can't recall having seen him use his right foot in the games I've seen.

Satyr - I'm sure you would have seen him use his right foot at training. Is he comfortable kicking with it?

[autocol 448]

My favourite bit so far is the physical stuff. Strong shepherds, etc. He made Ebert look like a kid.

Edited June 4, 2014 by autocol

[rpfc 28,769]

My favourite bit so far is the physical stuff. Strong shepherds, etc. He made Ebert look like a kid.

I think Ebert made himself look like that. He was trying to milk a free IMO.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

The guy is acquitting himself pretty well already physically as well as mentally and with sound judgement and poise, in a modest manner without appearing to be getting ahead of himself in any manner.

What little I have been able to see of him excites me more than any of our first year players in my memory.

The pick up, quick thinking and pass to the running Bail was awesome; but I think even more impressive was the teaming with Toumpas, laying the solid shepherd (very un-Melbourne like pre 2014 - the Port guy actually fell over, when have we seen that from a MFC shepherd?) then running on to receive the beautifully weighted and timed pass from Jimmy (even more un-Melbourne like pre 2014).

The underlined bits are totally new to this year's team. I remain stunned by the change.

Yes, that shepherd/ bump knocked Ebert for six. How about his speed to initiate the shepherd?