SaberFang 7,151 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Would laugh if we lose this weekend, secure pick 2, then trade it away and forgo Petracca anyway. Although apparently Colonwood are quite keen on him too. Would they give up Beams in exchange for pick 2? Petracca is a Pies supporter too...
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yep. Petracca and a fringe player can get Beams but it won't happen unless we offer good enough personal terms. And ye I reckon if we don't get Petracca I.e pick 2...we should trade away our early picks for sure.
SaberFang 7,151 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Doubt we have any fringe players that'd interest the Pies. Maybe Blease?
rjay 25,424 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Clint Jones? Probably the worst kick in the AFL.
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Ye I was thinking Priddis who is an absolute gun...but he's also a [censored] kick. Think he got 18 tackles against Richmond!!
olisik 4,060 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Watts for Armitage. Would spoil the GWs trade for Cameron at the same time.
hulkhogan666 142 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Watts for Armitage. Would spoil the GWs trade for Cameron at the same time. I am all for getting Armitage
Redleg 42,144 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 does that possibly make it even more likely we'll trade our early picks ? I could see Roos trading one of our early picks, assuming we get one for Chip leaving. Roos has shown a liking for the ready made player over the unknown draft pick.
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Plus I'm sure in the back of his mind....he's prioritising short term improvement as opposed to long term so that he doesn't ruin his reputation as bad. But neither will really be at the expense of the club
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yep. Petracca and a fringe player can get Beams but it won't happen unless we offer good enough personal terms. And ye I reckon if we don't get Petracca I.e pick 2...we should trade away our early picks for sure. You know this for sure yeah? Would love to see you produce a source that says the Pies would hand Beams over for Petracca and steak knives. Watts for Armitage. Would spoil the GWs trade for Cameron at the same time. I'm a big Armitage fan and would love him at Melbourne.... but I think we would need to give more than Watts.
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Isn't it obvious that its just my opinion. For a guy called 'wiseblood', you sound like an cynical fool.
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Isn't it obvious that its just my opinion. For a guy called 'wiseblood', you sound like an cynical fool. Say that then. You said above that, and I quote, "Yep. Petracca and a fringe player can get Beams..." as if you know that the Pies will hand him over for that. Totally different to "I think we can land Beams if....". I'm not going to go for personal attacks though, just learn how to phrase your posts.
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Well sorry mate, I don't want to go for personal attacks either. It's just most of the posts on this thread are opinions so I was hoping that it wasn't necessary for me to say, 'I think'.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I could see Roos trading one of our early picks, assuming we get one for Chip leaving. Roos has shown a liking for the ready made player over the unknown draft pick. Not just a liking but almost a disdain in respect to the draft much preferring as you say known entities than rolling the dice in Kiddie Lotto.
SaberFang 7,151 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I think almost from an ego point of view, Roos would rather get immediate success for this team and receive the credit, rather than set us up for long term success that his successor will receive all the credit for. A healthy balance of both draftees (Salem, JKH) and recruits (Tyson, Cross, Vince) would be ideal, and that's exactly what they nailed last year. No doubt they will again.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 There's a difference...a fundamental one between the better teams in this comp and say...us. They use the draft to bolster stocks and build for the future, to augment a list. We've gone madly shopping with picks for our next Messiah, then the next, only to fail..etc. We've made it the cornerstone of list development. its A building block, not THE one. Roos knows and understands this and will guide this club as we change tac.
rjay 25,424 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I think almost from an ego point of view, Roos would rather get immediate success for this team and receive the credit, rather than set us up for long term success that his successor will receive all the credit for. A healthy balance of both draftees (Salem, JKH) and recruits (Tyson, Cross, Vince) would be ideal, and that's exactly what they nailed last year. No doubt they will again. If he's thinking this way then I hope he resigns today and moves on.
Deecisive 1,709 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 collingwood will be looking for forwards so that means chucking money GWS players to try to pick one up or will be chasing early draft picks to pick up one and up and coming forward. i suspect chasing ready made players is more likely if not we maybe able to do a deal for one of our early picks.
Moneider96 1,045 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 We're just saying that he's probably trying to prioritise short term imporvement as much as possible. It's not a bad thing is it? He will be getting ready made players. I doubt he will do it at the expense of the club
Deez 298 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 That won't help. Say why dude, If we are to delist a whole bunch, and a coupe retired, we can't replace them with just petrecca.
dazzledavey36 56,282 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Found this comment on one of the MFC facebook pages.. ''Spoke to jack fitzpatrick's father yesterday! He's gone from MFC! He will be traded for anything at years end! Also melb & syd r in talks on a possible trade for Reid ! Rumoured our first pick... interesting..
picket fence 18,169 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Jack Fitzpatrick? Meh! had chances to consolidate, not quite up to it !
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Found this comment on one of the MFC facebook pages.. ''Spoke to jack fitzpatrick's father yesterday! He's gone from MFC! He will be traded for anything at years end! Also melb & syd r in talks on a possible trade for Reid ! Rumoured our first pick... interesting.. I know you are only passing it on dazzle, so I'm not shooting the messenger, but I don't believe a single thing that is said on FB. 12 year old kids with too much time on their hands.
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