At least most of the general play is watchable. But our kicking ...How could Howe and Bail not take a few more steps and kick from 40m rather than 50?

Why are we hand balling that much and kicking backwards? The goal posts are in front you and kick that way long.

Might aswell pay Roos out and fold pathetic outplayed out coached

First on the ignore list for 2014...

Jeremy friggin Howe. Time to stand up (on someone's head if you must) son.

We are ok in general play but the forwards are doing SFA.

Feels like history repeating but someone needs to stand up. We can win this but we need to start puttin it through the big sticks. 4-11 has hurt us badly.

Dunn, Watts, Jones

the quality of the football is so bad, but at least the intensity was up in the last 10 of that quarter.

watts, toumpas, vince, trengove pretty unsighted in that quarter.

i don't think we can run over the top of them as we simply don't look anything like quick enough.

i'm still on the saints by 20, unfortunately. was hoping i'd be proved wrong, but it really doesn't look it.

I mean stand up and take a game by the scruff of a neck ala Selwood, Hodge, even Riewoldt!! We dont have one genuine game changer

Well this ma5ch at least showed Watts can have a positive impact on the wing and no impact up forward

Cue excuses coming up.

Who would be the worst player as captain in the AFL?

Initials JG...

Meanwhile Chris Dawes earlier said he is 2-3 weeks away. Thats what he said 2 weeks ago and what he said 1 week ago.

I still think we can win 19pts ffs... GO DEES!!!!!!

Tyson goal. Great work from Watts in traffic to set it up.

tyson pings one from just outside 50!

great work by watts and nate jones to set up.

Watts involved again.

lucky, we get away with one there - billings running into an open goal hits the post.

I'll regret this comment but Frawley needs to have less flock ups before shopping himself around.

My opinion has always been that James Frawley is nowhere near as good as he or a lot of other people think he is. He's no spud, but he's also got a lot of room to improve.

Jones (of the nathen variety) is gonna have a sore head tomorrow. Gotta lot of high tackles paid to him tonight

agree with that chook. chip is showing all the signs of being 'just a player'.

if nate jones was playing for a decent side he'd be an absolute star. he's just a bona fide gun.

Knowing when to pull the trigger is a huge issue for Melbourne players.

gwilt kicks a beauty from outside 50. far, far too easy.

lead back out to 20.

Too little run out of defence at this point. We keep trying to chip out and wind up with another stoppage.

Watts has hit a new level tonight

Wish Spencer would take a mark one day. Must have the softest hands in history.

Watts another great kick forward, goal to Vince.

did michie just have his jaw broken?

vince kicks one from outside 50. back to 14 the diff.

Come on!!!

dunstan is all class for them.