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I stand corrected

Were you just taking a guess at that list of players that you posted?

Seriously, it really shows how little thought you put into your post. And I'd argue a few of the names you put in that list are extremely limited players and are in fact one of the very reasons why we are where we are as a club! So, quite the opposite of what you were saying.

 

Tyson needs some quick class around him to capitalise on his quick hands and brain.

At this early stage, goodoil, would you be inclined to trade an early pick for speed or would you take the tall and grab the class from elsewhere?

We have to remember also that next year we will likely add Trengove, Toumpas and Salem to our midfield. IMO we need some good key-position players to augment our forward and back lines!

That could be a Port Adelaide 2013 situation. Just getting some of these guys on the park and getting full pre seasons under their belts. Throw in a fit Hogan and Dawes, a top new KPF from the draft, another top mid from the draft and hopefully Chip re-signing, and all of a sudden we can build some momentum.

 

I'd be going KPF on our first pick and mid on our second pick (wherever the latter falls).

Wouldn't it be nice if Mitch Clark conquered his Demons and came back raring to go in 2015?


Wouldn't it be nice if Mitch Clark conquered his Demons and came back raring to go in 2015?

Honestly, i'd rather A win tomorrow..................today, whatever. Go Dees!!!!

Honestly, i'd rather A win tomorrow..................today, whatever. Go Dees!!!!

They are not mutually exclusive! Why not hope for both?

 

There is a unique inner drive about some kids who have done the hard yards.

I'd rather us take a punt on one of these kids - than take a punt on another private school bottom feeder.


Well, we had a budding photographer on the list (Clark), and now an actor (JKH), so it would be nice to further broaden our artistic talents with a painter / dancer.

Sounds like he's had a rough time of it as a kid - good luck to him.

Agreed and then, for the finishing touch, we could add a footballer.

Great post by the way. Was a good article.

There is a unique inner drive about some kids who have done the hard yards.

I'd rather us take a punt on one of these kids - than take a punt on another private school bottom feeder.

Lovely.

Or someone who can't play in the cold I presume?

There is a unique inner drive about some kids who have done the hard yards.

I'd rather us take a punt on one of these kids - than take a punt on another private school bottom feeder.

"Bottom feeder" is the term I'd probably reserve for someone that makes posts like this.

I look at the great footballers who play our game and it is simplistic in the extreme to label pirate school boys as bottom feeders. I'd almost say that most of the current day players are from private school backgrounds.

I look at the great footballers who play our game and it is simplistic in the extreme to label pirate school boys as bottom feeders. I'd almost say that most of the current day players are from private school backgrounds.

Except those that aren't! I agree.


"Bottom feeder" is the term I'd probably reserve for someone that makes posts like this.

good for you champ

Is there a clear pick 1.

I've heard abit about Wright. Is a sure number 1, like other years?

No. It's more open than recent years.


For those who are curious, Sam Durdin is playing for West Adelaide tonight in the Foxtel Cup. Wearing #60.

Looks tall but skinny.

Let's hope he's our new Cale Morton.

If we get pick one, two or whatever it will still be a lottery. One of the pillars of the AFL's belief system is that the draft is an equalising force, while the salary cap keeps a lid on the powerful clubs. In theory the draft should be an equaliser but is it? Ignoring the expansion clubs excessive draft gouging of recent years if you look at drafts in the early to mid 2000's, the bottom clubs didn't always get the best talent. Selwood, Rioli, Darling , Dangerfield, Shuey, Fyfe, Rich, the list goes on.

My point is the AFL lives on the concept the draft order provides more than enough equalisation in talent. I say no because it is still a lottery in the top 20 odd picks, it seems. I think the lower sides just need access to a greater number of first and second round picks. Forget priorities, just talk an extra pick say mid round 1 and an extra early 2nd rounder if you have failed to win 4 games for the last xxx years for Gods sake!!! Is this asking too much?

 

If we get pick one, two or whatever it will still be a lottery. One of the pillars of the AFL's belief system is that the draft is an equalising force, while the salary cap keeps a lid on the powerful clubs. In theory the draft should be an equaliser but is it? Ignoring the expansion clubs excessive draft gouging of recent years if you look at drafts in the early to mid 2000's, the bottom clubs didn't always get the best talent. Selwood, Rioli, Darling , Dangerfield, Shuey, Fyfe, Rich, the list goes on.

My point is the AFL lives on the concept the draft order provides more than enough equalisation in talent. I say no because it is still a lottery in the top 20 odd picks, it seems. I think the lower sides just need access to a greater number of first and second round picks. Forget priorities, just talk an extra pick say mid round 1 and an extra early 2nd rounder if you have failed to win 4 games for the last xxx years for Gods sake!!! Is this asking too much?

You say 'forget priorities' and then describe a mid first round and before second round priority picks under the old system.

So you don't want to forget the priorities?

I am all for equalisation - and that includes a team's list when they are perennially bad - what annoys me is when Melbourne supporters fall into the trap set by other supporters that drone about it as a form a 'undeserved welfare.' Or that 'we had our chance' with these priority picks and 'screwed them up' but do they know that Sylvia, Scully and Strauss were the only PPs we have received? They are including all our early draft picks in that empty argument.

And how does that hold up? We chose poorly at the draft so we shouldn't be able to draft anymore?

Equalisation isn't a 'give it one shot' situation...

So I would say 'don't forget the priorities' to the commission. It is a part of the rules (!) that they can be given out to teams that need them to compete.

So how about 'remember the god-damn rules' as a declaration to get behind?

You say 'forget priorities' and then describe a mid first round and before second round priority picks under the old system.

So you don't want to forget the priorities?

I am all for equalisation - and that includes a team's list when they are perennially bad - what annoys me is when Melbourne supporters fall into the trap set by other supporters that drone about it as a form a 'undeserved welfare.' Or that 'we had our chance' with these priority picks and 'screwed them up' but do they know that Sylvia, Scully and Strauss were the only PPs we have received? They are including all our early draft picks in that empty argument.

And how does that hold up? We chose poorly at the draft so we shouldn't be able to draft anymore?

Equalisation isn't a 'give it one shot' situation...

So I would say 'don't forget the priorities' to the commission. It is a part of the rules (!) that they can be given out to teams that need them to compete.

So how about 'remember the god-damn rules' as a declaration to get behind?

Agree with you and would think if the season keeps going as it is then we would be a walk up start for a priority pick. Particularly after last years Port argument seems to be well unfounded, we don't have the list Port does to do the amazing turnaround. That was a total furphy.


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