Grant Thomas twitter attack on Paul Roos???

[Its Time for Another 4,225]

I really don't like Malthouse, but that's a personality thing, not because he has done anything especially wrong as a coach.

Thomas on the other hand I really don't like, firstly because he got a coaching gig by stabbing someone else in the back, then because he did a Neeld and started trying to invent the game with rotating annual Captains which was a complete fail, he was basically a failure as a coach and had to be sacked, most of his controversial comments as a supposed commentator are based on personal bias not on logic or facts, he was happy to slander people, eg Neeld and Aaron Davey and then not apologise. He's a tool of the highest order.

You're never going to win the PR stakes as a coach. You can choose not to tell the truth and crap on about how well the team's going and they have turned a corner and it will be an exciting season blah blah blah because you're told to drum up optimism for memberships. Or you can tell the truth to the supporters about where the team is at and what the major challenge is and have people like Thomas call you egotistical. You can't win.

I know which version I'd rather see. It's the first time in many many years that I think a coach is saying something that gives you a clear idea of what is going on in the inner sanctum of the club. Is it a good thing for the players for the world to know they have shattered confidence and it has to be rebuilt over time. Oh, shock, horror, do you think they are only hearing it for the first time because it's in a newspaper article or do they already know it.

Roosy is a very astute man manager, I'm sure there is method at work. Like telling them they are good enough footballers to compete they are just lacking confidence. That doesn't sound like an egotistical exercise to me, more like man management skills that Thomas will never have.

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Thomas on the other hand I really don't like, firstly because he got a coaching gig by stabbing someone else in the back, then because he did a Neeld and started trying to invent the game with rotating annual Captains which was a complete fail, he was basically a failure as a coach and had to be sacked,

This is the great thing about the internet. You can make a fool of yourself before anyone has the chance to interrupt.

Grant Thomas took a basket case St Kilda to consecutive preliminary finals in two and a bit seasons (2004-05) and was sacked a year later while they were still playing finals.

How that is a "complete fail" is beyond me.

As for stabbing someone in the back, Blight as coach at St Kilda was off the air. Even he admits his head was not in it. It looked dodgy at the time, the way Butters moved on Blight and installed his mate Thomas, and it still looks dodgy. But the fact is Blight had to be replaced and they moved quickly to do it. What Thomas then achieved with the side who were wooden spooners in 2000 is significant.

In each of those prelim finals they were knocked out by the eventual premier.

As for his opinions, they are frank and forthright and a contrast to the mealy mouthed shite that many others offer.

[Its Time for Another 4,225]

This is the great thing about the internet. You can make a fool of yourself before anyone has the chance to interrupt.

Grant Thomas took a basket case St Kilda to consecutive preliminary finals in two and a bit seasons (2004-05) and was sacked a year later while they were still playing finals.

How that is a "complete fail" is beyond me.

As for stabbing someone in the back, Blight as coach at St Kilda was off the air. Even he admits his head was not in it. It looked dodgy at the time, the way Butters moved on Blight and installed his mate Thomas, and it still looks dodgy. But the fact is Blight had to be replaced and they moved quickly to do it. What Thomas then achieved with the side who were wooden spooners in 2000 is significant.

In each of those prelim finals they were knocked out by the eventual premier.

As for his opinions, they are frank and forthright and a contrast to the mealy mouthed shite that many others offer.

Yeh, know what you mean about you making a fool of yourself on the internet. You are doing it admirably right now.

If you could read you would see that my comment was about the annual rotation of Captains being a compete fail. Good luck if you don't agree with that one because Thomas and the rest of the Saints thought it was a fail. He has said if he had his time over again it was something he wouldn't do again.

Have a look at the list he inherited and wasn't able to do anything with. Take a good look at those Prelim performances. They were embarrassing from a list that should have been winning Premierships not getting flogged. Look what the coach who took over from him achieved with the same group. Seriously, and it's you that's making comments about people making a fool of themselves.

As for Blight. If you actually listened to what Blight said not Thomas, he said he was doing exactly what he did in his time at the Cats and Crows. He always needed his time out every week to clear his head space and he was doing that at the Saints but they didn't get it. He said there wasn't any problem from his point of view. Watch Open Mike and read a bit.

So based on your magnificent logic being frank and forthright about your complete shite opinions is more important than having any basis in truth or facts. That seems to fit in with your post.

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while I don't like all this anti gt stuff he gave the warrnambool footy club , the blues great success in the Hamden league , to me he was great then , now ? who cares but still the best coach we ever had , cheers grant and all in warrnambool , fans I mean thanks for that , sensational , , at the height would of made mince of cellar afl teams , it was that good , so I guess ive time for the man , thanks

[dee-luded 2,959]

Love listening to GT as he never seems to tow the party line. I'm sure it's why Vlad hounded him out of football media - too much of a loose cannon and not controllable. He also constantly called city hall on their BS.

His coaching style was almost the polar opposite of Roos - attack, attack, attack.

Great to watch.

In a lot of ways it's a shame he never threw his hat in the ring for another gig once the Saints flicked him - he was clearly great with building belief in youngsters.

agreed but his coaching was back in the day when offence was still in vogue.

IMO the best style is a real balance of stout defence & rebound footy.

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Thomas straddles the line between forthright and provocation I think. I like that he has strong opinions and isn't afraid about being blunt about it, but sometimes I'm sure he voices them in a manner designed purely to get a reaction.

I'm not sure if just reaction is his target, more likely to help, but via a provocative style. not wanting to be too nice its sickly.

he's cloaked his softer self with provocative delivery.