New Major Sponsor: Automotive Holdings Group (AHG)

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 05/12/2013 at 02:37, old dee said:

I dropped the MFC membership early in the first conversation. Perhaps that pushed the price up.

The sales person probably supports Collingwood.

It was not just the price

And why should I bb?

The other dealers are giving me a cheaper price without any push from me.

My gut feel was that the sales person did not see me as a potential customer.

But the others did.

Do you think we get second rate companies sponsoring the MFC

LOL - they got to pay for their sponsorship somehow od

[Machsy 2,858]

I get the feeling that maybe mentioning that you are a supporter made the salesman think you were a guaranteed sale regardless... or he knew the price would put you off.

Either way, I knew they were open to individual sales, but aren't they primarily into fleet vehicles?

[The Chazz 4,077]

  On 05/12/2013 at 02:37, old dee said:

I dropped the MFC membership early in the first conversation. Perhaps that pushed the price up.

The sales person probably supports Collingwood.

It was not just the price

And why should I bb?

The other dealers are giving me a cheaper price without any push from me.

My gut feel was that the sales person did not see me as a potential customer.

But the others did.

Do you think we get second rate companies sponsoring the MFC?

A Collingwood supporter that's employed? C'mon Old Dee.

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:05, Machsy said:

I get the feeling that maybe mentioning that you are a supporter made the salesman think you were a guaranteed sale regardless... or he knew the price would put you off.

Either way, I knew they were open to individual sales, but aren't they primarily into fleet vehicles?

Machsy they have normal auto Dealerships on a number of makes across Australia.

Particularly Melbourne in our case.

Ford, Holden, Nissan, Toyota, Alfa, Jeep etc.

You may have one in your surburb

[old dee 24,073]

All jokes aside do we get second rate sponsors?

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:10, old dee said:

All jokes aside do we get second rate sponsors?

wouldnt have particularly thought so Old...transient ones...well ...lol

[Machsy 2,858]

I see. Well then, maybe he thought you'd be true to the stereotype of a dees supporter and would be intending to support a club sponsor without much regard for price.

I'm just guessing, but car salesman often make quick character judgments. It's how they work.

In any case, I've had no dealings with them.

[Machsy 2,858]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:10, old dee said:

All jokes aside do we get second rate sponsors?

Once again, what on earth do you mean by that?

And it shouldn't be news that we aren't any potential AFL club sponsor's first choice, unless they already have some sort of existing relationship with the club.

Like anyone else, they'd prefer to be associated with success.

[beelzebub 23,392]

Theres an easy buying technique with cars... just keep one eye permanently peeled on the door..

make the bastards work for it... and screw them down....then walk away.. and wait for the call..lol

That was technique used to get daughters new car ( shes paying btw ) but doesnt like the dance...I find it fun

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:10, old dee said:

All jokes aside do we get second rate sponsors?

did you turn up in a dress and long wig?

car salesmen are notorious for ripping off females

you could have just explained your "condition"

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:17, daisycutter said:

did you turn up in a dress and long wig?

car salesmen are notorious for ripping off females

you could have just explained your "condition"

Female Sales person dc.

and I was in business attire.

I did get as Machsy suggested the feeling that I was an easy target as a Dees supporter but I may have imagined that.

[Gorgoroth 13,211]

Go In again and speak to a different salesperson and if they treat you the same tell the manager that due to poor service and attitude you won't be buying from then and drop the names and prices you have from other dealers without even negotiating yet. And as stated walk if need be, don't be rude, or anything just simply state that due to costs and service you are going elsewhere. Even re state due to the overall companies association with MFC you came there and that you intend to let the head office know of the service you reviewed.

[beelzebub 23,392]

you cant play nice at car yards ..lol You can be polite... but you cant give then too much lee way.

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:23, old dee said:

Female Sales person dc.

and I was in business attire.

I did get as Machsy suggested the feeling that I was an easy target as a Dees supporter but I may have imagined that.

i see

pretty hard to screw a female sales rep in broad daylight though as bub suggested

guess you just keep shopping od

[The Chazz 4,077]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:10, old dee said:

All jokes aside do we get second rate sponsors?

Depends on who you speak to Old Dee. The fact that AHG is an ASX200 company, some would find that we only deal with the elite companies now.

Personally, I think the companies that we've been associated with in the last decade are in competitive marketplaces and given the ease of finding a cheap price for products, whether directly through the supplier or through third party agreements.

I realise that all clubs/companies are in the same boat, but from us members point of view, we can only give our sponsors the opportunity to get our money, it's up to them how much they want it. Some will shop around, and if you're anything like me, saving $3000 is well worth shopping around for.

Even a company like Hertz can often be dearer dealing directly with them, even with the member discount. Websites like vroom vroom can often give you a price that even the Hertz yards can't give you.

I don't think you're unlucky with your dealings with our current/previous sponsors, but I don't think we deal with second rate sponsors either.

[beelzebub 23,392]

Was quite funny really...daughter asked later of it all " why are you so hard on them?" Laughed my face off almost.

Had to explain to young lass..Im not hard, as I explained to said salesman I'm dead easy to deal with. Just give me exactly what i want., lets start from that point and move forward....and no BS !!

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:25, beelzebub said:

you cant play nice at car yards ..lol You can be polite... but you cant give then too much lee way.

I am a salesman bb so I know every trick going.

However that in fact may occasionally put me in the wrong situation when I am the customer.

I tend to go a little easy on them.

However If I think I am not being taken seriously I walk fairly quickly.

Anyway just interested in peoples opinions as IMO I have had ordinary contact with the majority of MFC sponsors that I have contacted over the years.

I usually end up somewhere else spending my money.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:35, old dee said:

I am a salesman bb so I know every trick going.

However that in fact may occasionally put me in the wrong situation when I am the customer.

I tend to go a little easy on them.

However If I think I am not being taken seriously I walk fairly quickly.

Anyway just interested in peoples opinions as IMO I have had ordinary contact with the majority of MFC sponsors that I have contacted over the years.

I usually end up somewhere else spending my money.

I found the problem

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:27, billy2803 said:

Depends on who you speak to Old Dee. The fact that AHG is an ASX200 company, some would find that we only deal with the elite companies now.

Personally, I think the companies that we've been associated with in the last decade are in competitive marketplaces and given the ease of finding a cheap price for products, whether directly through the supplier or through third party agreements.

I realise that all clubs/companies are in the same boat, but from us members point of view, we can only give our sponsors the opportunity to get our money, it's up to them how much they want it. Some will shop around, and if you're anything like me, saving $3000 is well worth shopping around for.

Even a company like Hertz can often be dearer dealing directly with them, even with the member discount. Websites like vroom vroom can often give you a price that even the Hertz yards can't give you.

I don't think you're unlucky with your dealings with our current/previous sponsors, but I don't think we deal with second rate sponsors either.

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:27, billy2803 said:

Depends on who you speak to Old Dee. The fact that AHG is an ASX200 company, some would find that we only deal with the elite companies now.

Personally, I think the companies that we've been associated with in the last decade are in competitive marketplaces and given the ease of finding a cheap price for products, whether directly through the supplier or through third party agreements.

I realise that all clubs/companies are in the same boat, but from us members point of view, we can only give our sponsors the opportunity to get our money, it's up to them how much they want it. Some will shop around, and if you're anything like me, saving $3000 is well worth shopping around for.

Even a company like Hertz can often be dearer dealing directly with them, even with the member discount. Websites like vroom vroom can often give you a price that even the Hertz yards can't give you.

I don't think you're unlucky with your dealings with our current/previous sponsors, but I don't think we deal with second rate sponsors either.

Yep $3000 will be in my pocket you can bet on that.

Are you sure? I am not suggesting we go looking for second rate companies but we are usually desperate and MAY take whatever is available.

That MAY mean we get less than the top.

e.g. "Energy watch"

[beelzebub 23,392]

In all seriousness..as explained to lil girl ..Cars are expensive I dont lose sleep over saving thousands. I dont really care about the salesperson.. Im polite but firm. i dont budge. its my money I can walk away. its their choice..they can work for the com..its what they do after all.

I suppose its an interesting position though with a sponsor who sells cars. I mean some poor scmucks pay the sticker price, thats their decision I guess.

I would feel no more beholding to an AHG dealer than any other.. I might out of loyalty to the club at least give them a chance to make an offer. After that ...all bets off, unless AHG want to pay my mortgage etc

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:36, beelzebub said:

I found the problem

See the next line bb

anyway you can be fairly certain that AHG will not be selling me my next car.

When the lovely one rings me I will tell her sorry the horse has bolted.

Too dear .

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:40, old dee said:

Are you sure? I am not suggesting we go looking for second rate companies but we are usually desperate and MAY take whatever is available.

That MAY mean we get less than the top.

e.g. "Energy watch"

energy watch should have raised a few alarms (pi)

they didn't even make or sell watches

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:41, beelzebub said:

In all seriousness..as explained to lil girl ..Cars are expensive I dont lose sleep over saving thousands. I dont really care about the salesperson.. Im polite but firm. i dont budge. its my money I can walk away. its their choice..they can work for the com..its what they do after all.

I suppose its an interesting position though with a sponsor who sells cars. I mean some poor scmucks pay the sticker price, thats their decision I guess.

I would feel no more beholding to an AHG dealer than any other.. I might out of loyalty to the club at least give them a chance to make an offer. After that ...all bets off, unless AHG want to pay my mortgage etc

I understand all that bb

I just thought I would give them a chance as they were the New MFC major sponsor.

They are not even close to where I live.

I have done the right thing by the MFC but AHG don't measure up.

Life goes on.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:45, old dee said:

I understand all that bb

I just thought I would give them a chance as they were the New MFC major sponsor.

They are not even close to where I live.

I have done the right thing by the MFC but AHG don't measure up.

Life goes on.

it does indeed

[old dee 24,073]

  On 05/12/2013 at 04:43, daisycutter said:

energy watch should have raised a few alarms (pi)

they didn't even make or sell watches

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