Yes there is something in that. Whether it is just team balance and/or team sprit we will see. Towards the end of last season the Swans were playing with a lethargy not dissimilar to ours. Interesting that the only final they won was when Tippett only got one disposal and subbed off early.

Maybe something akin to Diamond Jim Tilbrook in the 1960s - he was going to keep us at the top for another decade, but came to absolutely nought. Unbalanced a very disciplined team unit (mind you sacking the most successful coach in history didn't help much either).

I don't understand why we are so critical of AFL players who like to let their hair down in the off season......Yes they are supposed to be professional 365 days of the year, but can't go out and have a good time every now and then ????

They get 8 weeks a year for holidays, most go overseas because they can have a drink without the press hiding in the rubbish tins to spring them doing the wrong things....

The human race is made up of millions of different people thank goodness but we are trying to make our footballers into robots

I understand that they are paid a lot of money for the entertainment they provide but they are human and have loves, hates, problems just like the rest of us.....They have a right to their own free time as we all do....

I don't know how you think you can make such a definitive statement about something that is so unpredictable.

Lols, unpredictable?

He's had the same personality from day one at the Hawks and his contribution to the team over the past decade or thereabouts has been monumental. They have two flags.

Going by that alone, it's hardly unpredictable.

Franklin and Garlett... I see a pattern emerging here with you and those two.

It's just bitter Melbourne supporters wanting to see thriving teams fail. I get it.

It's just bitter Melbourne supporters wanting to see thriving teams fail. I get it.

Drawing a rather long bow isn't it? Posts on here are simply observing very un-Sydney like behaviour. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is one of the most absurd threads I have ever seen on demonland, because someone here heard from a friend that Hannebery is upset about taking a paycut then the strongest (or certainly one of) cultures in the competition is failing? And also John Longmire is a rubbish coach, despite the fact that he managed to win a premiership in 2012 when all experts at the start of the year thought that they didn't have a good enough list. Yet some supporters here- who have just endured a season of 100 point loses week after week- would be worried if they were a swans supporter?

Shane Mumford did not walk out on the club, he was pretty much pushed out. Pyke overtook him this year as a ruckman this year, so they no longer needed Mumford as much as they did when they lured him away from Geelong on a very lucrative pay packet. Mumford coming out of contract would have gone a long way towards the swans being able to throw so much at buddy.

Jesse White walked out on the club? They tried to move him on last year for Kurt Tippet even though they were able to get Tippet for free (as they eventually did). Jesse realised there was no room for him in a side boasting Tippet and Franklin and realised after being worst afield in the swans finals loss to Hawthorn it was probably time he left for a side that might require his services.

Jed Lamb leaving is a case of a player not good enough to get regular games in a top side and offered a contract by GWS worth far more than any other club could afford to offer such a young player, let alone Sydney who has a host of other stars who they have to keep.

Andrejs Everitt is case of a fringe player in a top side who left because weaker sides were willing to offer him more than his current team. A burden of being a top side and something that happens to all elite sides.

On the Buddy Franklin deal, they offered one of the best payer's in the comp a massive contract, how else are you supposed to attract someone of his quality? Yes the reported deal does seem over-the-top, but I imagine the deal is rear-loaded and Sydney is counting on the salary cap to increase over the next few years, not to mention he will be on the veterans list for the second half of the contract. Not only does getting Buddy give them probably the best forwardline in the comp, but the money you get from marketing Buddy would be absolutely huge. Sydney don't have the luxury of being a Victorian team so they have to come up with more creative moves like this in order to stay ahead (both on and off the field), they've been pulling "crazy" stunts like this for years and as a result, they have remained ahead of most of the competition, despite the obvious disadvantage of being located in NSW.

So Sydney manage to attract one of the best players in the comp, keep all their other stars, yet because they lose a few players they don't need and someone on demonland heard from a friend that Hannebery was upset, their culture is cracking? The reason I'm so happy, and the reason everyone else is so happy about getting Paul Roos is because hopefully it means we become more like Sydney.

Drawing a rather long bow isn't it? Posts on here are simply observing very un-Sydney like behaviour. Nothing more, nothing less.

Or your drawing the short bow.

The title of the thread tells the story alone.

Not cracking anywhere near as badly as the Buckley Wobbles are, but still cracking substantially.

So much weight on the shoulders of Buddy.

Or your drawing the short bow.

The title of the thread tells the story alone.

WTF?

Not cracking anywhere near as badly as the Buckley Wobbles are, but still cracking substantially.

So much weight on the shoulders of Buddy.

Does anyone else simply not think he's as good as he was say 2 years ago?

The Swans have Goosed the system twice to get their big targets.

The worker bee culture is over.

Goodes just about done.Let 'em sink.

Wow that's pretty interesting to hear.

But not surprising. I thought Longmire would have been smarter than that

Enjoy Sydney..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/afl-star-lance-franklin-runs-amok-at-swish-bar/story-fnilxh2p-1226772348489#mm-breached

It'll be like a reality tv show, albeit one that need not be produced.

Good to see Lance is enjoying his $$$ !!!

Nothing worse in a club than a drunk loudly knocking over drinks.

Not the first time he has done that.

Enjoy Sydney..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/afl-star-lance-franklin-runs-amok-at-swish-bar/story-fnilxh2p-1226772348489#mm-breached

"Journalism".

not excusing buddy's behaviour but i doubt the type of patrons at The Island have ever seen someone "running amok" and "causing havoc"

if they had they would have left the bar quick smart