Oh I reckon he'll probably get there by the END of the season

Think your right as the AFL appears to be supportive of Clubs that had a doggy supplements program.

Senior ESS players with several hard pre seasons under their belts must have been pleasantly surprised in 2012 when not only did they increase their mass but managed to keep it throughout the season (pic: round 14 2012). These players must have known something was "up" yet stayed with the program!

Cheats! No sympathy! Maximum penalty!

Welcome fragger.

Nice avatar.

ASADA preparing amended show-cause notices

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Crow's stinging attack on dopers

Kim Crow (world champ rower) just connected the hammer with the nail

Crow's stinging attack on dopers

Kim Crow (world champ rower) just connected the hammer with the nail

Somewhat ironic (for want of a better word) that her father Max played 136 games for the Bombers.

Coincidental that the company that supplied the TB4 is owned by the company that was supposedly going to test the drugs after Alavi produced the shots for Dank to use. According to Dank the shots were in contact light and were destroyed before they were tested. Amazing isn't it?

Hahaaaaaaaahhhahhaha Hun reporting that Sheedy may be back at Dons next year to support Hird along with Mark Harvey putting pressure on Bomber.

Camp turd leaking [censored] to the Hun again but this time to screw a "mate".

SHEEDY! AHAHAHAHAHAHA...They obviously got a two word answer from everyone else.

Kim Crow is also quoted here in this SMH article ~ AOC pushes for increase in doping bans

Without citing the Cronulla example, Crow was strident in her demand for stronger doping penalties on Monday.

"Allowing soft sanctions is punishing every clean athlete," Crow said.

"There is no doubt that the prevailing view of the athletes is that there is no place in sport for doping, and tough sanctions for those who dope and those who abet the doping process is fundamental to clean sport.

"Dopers have stolen the innocence of sport. Dopers have cast a shadow over our entire sporting population."

This is the response to those who think that players found to have ingested banned drugs should get off lightly.

The fact that AFL footballers are highly paid and in the limelight must not give them any privileges over and above those of any other sporting people in this country or anywhere else.

Don't you just love how Hird always said wait for the truth to come out and we will be cleared. Then lo and behold he issues legal proceedings to stop the truth coming out that the AFL/ASADA had collected. And then he appeals saying he would be living a lie if he didn't appeal the judgement. But of course all he is doing is trying to suppress the true facts of the drug cheating. Now we are seeing what the "truth" looks like. It aint pretty Mr Hird and Mr Little.

You've got to feel for the players. They're the one's who'll be banned for 6mths.

Wonder what sanctions the AFL will bring now that drug cheating looks like it will be proven. Given that the last sanctions were only for failures in governance and expressly not for drug cheating.

I don't feel for the players at all. They've had opportunity after opportunity to break away from the club and approach this situation sensibly, but they've dug their heads in the sand along with the corrupt idiots running the EFC.

Don't tell me those players didn't know something was a little bit 'off' about going to an external clinic to have private injections of an unlabelled substance in a secluded room in South Yarra. Don't tell me not one player found this a little suspect. And why, if the players were so ignorant about what was going on, did Zaharakis explicitly refuse to be involved in the program? They all obviously knew what was going on, but have now agreed to play the ignorance card in the hope it lessens their sanctions.

Too bad ASADA have already said the onus is on the players for what gets injected into their bodies, and it's for this exact scenario. Otherwise everyone would just lie and pull out the "but they told me it wasn't bad!" card.

Kim Crow is also quoted here in this SMH article ~ AOC pushes for increase in doping bans

This is the response to those who think that players found to have ingested banned drugs should get off lightly.

The fact that AFL footballers are highly paid and in the limelight must not give them any privileges over and above those of any other sporting people in this country or anywhere else.

Jack, This will be very bad news for the Essendon players. As I understand it, Asada as it was set up by the Government, Is different to other international doping agencies because it is not perceived as fully independent for Govt. influence. If Asada do not get their act together and impose a proper penalty on the Bombers then it could very well have a seriously detrimental effect on Australian sports men and women competing on the international stage.

But, it's stretching things beyond the limits of elasticity to suggest the purpose in appealing is to wash from Bombers' players, past and present, the stains left by the innuendo, misconceptions and falsities created by ASADA's investigations. No, the purpose of the appeal is to bury, under a thousand tonnes of concrete, any prospect of Hird being forced to answer for his own conduct under the AFL's anti-doping rules.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/james-hirds-future-may-end-up-as-black-as-oscar-the-grouchs-bin-20141010-1140bc.html#ixzz3G4TDIrjn

missed this one.

quality bake

Research is indicating that strength training and in particular "chemically enhanced" training can bring about permanent changes to the structure of the muscle(s).
Applied to our current situation: any Essendon player(s) found to have used illegal means to increase strength and who are subsequently suspended would never

the less still be 'enhanced' long after serving any suspension period. This is akin to letting the bank robber keep the cash!

Perhaps we need to rethink doping penalties, do away with terms like suspended, banned and disqualifed and instead create a new category: NON-ELIGIBLE!
Simply stated "if you are found to be an enhanced doper you will be clasified as a 'non-eligible athlete' and can never again be involved in competitive sport."

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24730151

http://www.exercisebiology.com/index.php/site/articles/muscle_memory_solved/

Research is indicating that strength training and in particular "chemically enhanced" training can bring about permanent changes to the structure of the muscle(s).

Applied to our current situation: any Essendon player(s) found to have used illegal means to increase strength and who are subsequently suspended would never

the less still be 'enhanced' long after serving any suspension period. This is akin to letting the bank robber keep the cash!

Perhaps we need to rethink doping penalties, do away with terms like suspended, banned and disqualifed and instead create a new category: NON-ELIGIBLE!

Simply stated "if you are found to be an enhanced doper you will be clasified as a 'non-eligible athlete' and can never again be involved in competitive sport."

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24730151

http://www.exercisebiology.com/index.php/site/articles/muscle_memory_solved/

I like the cut of your jib there superman !!

totally agree.

Those trying to rort the system will need to rethink if the system itself is rejigged

MessyDrugs invest 20 million in a new training facility

They are coming!!!!!!!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-doping-saga-asada-accusations-now-turn-to-shanghai-factory/story-fni5ezdm-1227088199608

Going Going Going, Gone

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-and-port-adelaide-in-mediation-over-patrick-ryder-trade-20141015-116fst.html

17 and a star player

For a star player who wants out.

still on the drugs then

Sorry why is the afl mediator involved and not a court appointed one? Ryder f the bumblers.

17 and a star player

For a star player who wants out.

still on the drugs then

They are selling damaged goods.

As their player is likely to be banned for an unknown period of time and they want a quality player who will not be banned in return.

So the result will be other clubs will have the banned players while they recruit new ones.

This Club should be kicked out of the league and not allowed back, EVER!

17 and a star player

For a star player who wants out.

still on the drugs then

Bombers have delayed this strategically.

Had Ryder walked easily and early in trade period it it could have paved the way and given time for others to invoke the clause.

Bombers have delayed this strategically.

Has Ryder walked easily and early in trade period it it could have paved the way and given time for others to invoke the clause.

Essendon...... How ever long it takes !!