Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[rjay 24,917]

I find it quite ironic that the mods on this site find it necessary (and quite rightly so) to suppress posts about rumours of the alleged activities of a certain (opposition) player and his future at his own club while a so called "leading newspaper" in this town allows its own journalists to routinely publish rumour and innuendo about other clubs.

Why do they allow Wilson for instance to write that "Melbourne will be harshly punished. Cameron Schwab and Chris Connolly will be finished at the club" (back in November) well before the outcome of the tanking investigation is known, indeed before charges are laid and those in question are allowed to defend themselves. Similar attacks have been mounted on Essendon and its officials and coaches on the drug allegations before the facts have come out and an investigation taken place.

Why does an alleged drug cheat with an already chequered history and his club get more protection than respected figures in the game?

Because there is no confirmed investigation or charge against this rumoured player . It's all social media stories with at this stage no foundation, unfortunately our club is under investigation and it opens us up to these stories. The investigation is not a rumour it is happening even though we think it shouldn't.

[The Great Pretender 463]

Because there is no confirmed investigation or charge against this rumoured player . It's all social media stories with at this stage no foundation, unfortunately our club is under investigation and it opens us up to these stories. The investigation is not a rumour it is happening even though we think it shouldn't.

I understand that but don't accept that people have licence to condemn others over what is as yet unsubstantiated information.

I was commenting on the irony of the situation.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Because we have better standards.

[dpositive 1,665]

Because we have better standards.

I like this

Not sure if Irony Sarcasm Wit commentary or fact???????

[Whispering_Jack 30,027]

Dank admitting that coaches used supplements that were "a little bit" outside WADA'S code and not the players is bewildering if anything. Is it a red flag? And what is a little bit? It's either inside or outside.

It tells us nothing except the coaches of all things are experimenting or using peptides. Weird. And a little puzzling.

Of course, it's possible that testing which might prove that banned substances were taken by any of the players can't be carried out but there may be evidence that they were present at the EFC (evidence of delivery or information through wire taps or other technology).

It would then be a convenient response to say that these substances were never given to players, only coaches and therefore no players get suspended (if the response is believed).

Just a theory.

[Bonkers 994]

Of course, it's possible that testing which might prove that banned substances were taken by any of the players can't be carried out but there may be evidence that they were present at the EFC (evidence of delivery or information through wire taps or other technology).

It would then be a convenient response to say that these substances were never given to players, only coaches and therefore no players get suspended (if the response is believed).

Just a theory.

From what I've read peptides are currently undetectable through any current testing. Your theory regarding coaches using instead of players as a cover up makes sense.

[Red N Blue Society 165]

Essenroid?

Lol...You guys are on it! Make this dirty club a new name! Just like West Coke Eagers!

How about Essence-Done!

[old dee 23,787]

Leaving Essendon out of the discussion I get the feeling that a week down the track

That there is some political kite flying going on here.

Now it seems that 16 clubs have nothing to worry about, 3 NRL clubs mentioned have now been cleared.

I smell a federal govenment keen to appear on top of something / anything with an election around the corner.

Does anyone else feel this is a witch hunt with very little to back it up.

We are supposed to believe that there is a great big problem out there when my gut feel now suggest there is a problem

But it did not need this level of activity.

Reputations are going to be trashed and for those individuals there will be no way back.

But perhaps I am just a cynic

[jnrmac 20,058]

Leaving Essendon out of the discussion I get the feeling that a week down the track

That there is some political kite flying going on here.

Now it seems that 16 clubs have nothing to worry about, 3 NRL clubs mentioned have now been cleared.

I smell a federal govenment keen to appear on top of something / anything with an election around the corner.

Does anyone else feel this is a witch hunt with very little to back it up.

We are supposed to believe that there is a great big problem out there when my gut feel now suggest there is a problem

But it did not need this level of activity.

Reputations are going to be trashed and for those individuals there will be no way back.

But perhaps I am just a cynic

Brand new Minister keen to make a name for himself - Jason Clare. Decent bt of grandstanding for all the evidence information they have got

[sue 9,102]

Leaving Essendon out of the discussion I get the feeling that a week down the track

That there is some political kite flying going on here.

Now it seems that 16 clubs have nothing to worry about, 3 NRL clubs mentioned have now been cleared.

I smell a federal govenment keen to appear on top of something / anything with an election around the corner.

Does anyone else feel this is a witch hunt with very little to back it up.

We are supposed to believe that there is a great big problem out there when my gut feel now suggest there is a problem

But it did not need this level of activity.

Reputations are going to be trashed and for those individuals there will be no way back.

But perhaps I am just a cynic

After their briefing yesterday I see that the State Premiers are saying that the problem is worse than they imagined. Since most of them are Liberals, I think that blows a hole in the theory that this is a Federal govt stunt.

[beelzebub 23,350]

not everyones cup of tea...but

interesting to read and take on board ..

The One rigged game was the press conference

[old dee 23,787]

After their briefing yesterday I see that the State Premiers are saying that the problem is worse than they imagined. Since most of them are Liberals, I think that blows a hole in the theory that this is a Federal govt stunt.

After their briefing yesterday I see that the State Premiers are saying that the problem is worse than they imagined. Since most of them are Liberals, I think that blows a hole in the theory that this is a Federal govt stunt.

I will believe it when I see charges until then it is 50% grandstanding in my view

[old dee 23,787]

not everyones cup of tea...but

interesting to read and take on board ..

The One rigged game was the press conference

That is my exact feeling bb

[rpfc 28,384]

I will believe it when I see charges until then it is 50% grandstanding in my view

No doubt, OD.

But whenever something like this was to come out - an entire club possible use of peptides, another player known to be in trouble, 3 to 6 NRL clubs with clouds over them, and with the links to criminals, bikie gangs, and a possible 9 AFL clubs with illicit drug use - the [censored] was going to hit the fan and the community at large was always going to overreact...

(I mean this was the worst week in Australian sport since...jeez, I really can't tell you...)

The government overreacted first. It takes away criticism about not taking it seriously enough.

And it takes newspaper space for a short while...

[jnrmac 20,058]

Eddie Obeid off the front page of the paper. Good thought....

Wouldn't put it past these muppets in Govt

[Outside fifty 967]

Being the natural cynic I am I wouldn't put it past any Government to manipulate a released report to suit their own agenda. Having said that if anybody thinks we don't have a problem in this country and sporting bodies in inparticular with PIED's and recreational drugs, then they are blowing smoke up their own clacker. It's a genuine issue that is escalating at an alarming rate.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Outside fifty

[H_T 3,043]

Being the natural cynic I am I wouldn't put it past any Government to manipulate a released report to suit their own agenda. Having said that if anybody thinks we don't have a problem in this country and sporting bodies in inparticular with PIED's and recreational drugs, then they are blowing smoke up their own clagger. It's a genuine issue that is escalating at an alarming rate.

Clacker.

Agree on the issue.

[Outside fifty 967]

You beat me to it. I was just about to edit it.

[jnrmac 20,058]

Can't have this thread fall off the front page. It has given me so much pleasure over the past two weeks.

Makes me smile every time I log on so I thought I would bump it up....

[daisycutter 29,613]

new claims against Lions

[old dee 23,787]

new claims against Lions

This started to p--- me of a week ago dc.

Now it seems AFL teams will be up for every bit of slander and mischievous piece from anyone seeking fame or revenge from any slight real or imagined.

And still there are no charges or any hard evidence.

This may go down as the biggest political witch hunt we have seen so far this century.

We should all read Andrew Bolt's peice in todays HUN.

[daisycutter 29,613]

that's why i didn't comment od

[old dee 23,787]

that's why i didn't comment od

Wise

But I cannot help myself

Some things get right up my nose

[hardtack 10,537]

Wise

But I cannot help myself

Some things get right up my nose

Was that intended? ;-)

[beelzebub 23,350]

The 4th estate have gone from the pillars of democracy to the pariahs of the derogatory .