On 14/12/2013 at 01:08, Jara said:

Yes. Imagine the poor dudes at the players association trying to monitor and do something for the players' long-term health but are hamstrung by the fact that nobody (supposedly, but I wouldn't believe it in a pink fit) can say what they were given. They keep records of every bloody little thing they do - except for what they were injecting into their arms (my wife is a nurse - finds this the most surprising aspect of the whole thing - says they have to keep records of every little thing they do. I suppose shes only surprised because she comes from the legitimate health world, rather than the body-building 'sports science' muscles-and-balls-in-inverse-proportions one (if that makes sense)

Hopefully this will continue to punish the Bummers for years to come. Lawsuits from players in ten or twenty years? Delisted players spilling th beans? All good.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are records somewhere; maybe someone is keeping them for self insurance.

Maybe they have been handed over to the governing bodies.

  monoccular said:

by whom?.

any willing member

If Vlad wasnt compromised the league would truly have their curlies.

To me only shows the complicity early in all this mess.

This is all a very grubby and sad episode in the history of the AFL/VFL.

The article by Patrick Smith pulls no punches, listing Hird's sins and AD's woes:

A million bucks for Hird to twiddle his thumbs - quite a punishment

ends with

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In the end Demetriou's biggest mistake was that he had not considered it possible a man of Hird's (previous) standing in football would not acknowledge the damage he had done and would continue to do to his club and to his sport.

Yesterday Hird made a million bucks at the same time he lost the last drop of his dignity, last dollop of respect.

  On 14/12/2013 at 04:01, sue said:

The article by Patrick Smith pulls no punches, listing Hird's sins and AD's woes:

A million bucks for Hird to twiddle his thumbs - quite a punishment

ends with

A pretty scathing article and paints Hird as a selfish arrogant man who has no regards for his club, just his own ego.

I had a look at bomberblitz and the thread to do with all this has disappeared. Any good conspiracy theory as to why?

  On 14/12/2013 at 04:53, sue said:

I had a look at bomberblitz and the thread to do with all this has disappeared. Any good conspiracy theory as to why?

Yes, all bombers fans are just delighted at the goings on at their club.

  On 14/12/2013 at 04:53, sue said:

I had a look at bomberblitz and the thread to do with all this has disappeared. Any good conspiracy theory as to why?

There would be no need for a discussion over there. The thread would start with "we are innocent and it's all AD's fault" then there would be 1000 I agree posts.

  On 14/12/2013 at 02:31, monoccular said:

But by whom?

Oh yes they can. They are Essendon after all. They can do what they please and AD is too weak and scared to take them on. WADA / ASADA on the other hand MAY prove to be a different proposition.

May?

June?

July?

And of what year?

The atmosphere about this investigation is truly dank.

  On 14/12/2013 at 05:01, cowboy_from_hell said:

There would be no need for a discussion over there. The thread would start with "we are innocent and it's all AD's fault" then there would be 1000 I agree posts.

Do they have a "LIKE" button?

  On 14/12/2013 at 04:53, sue said:

I had a look at bomberblitz and the thread to do with all this has disappeared. Any good conspiracy theory as to why?

I think during The Weapon's interview the site went into melt down so they made a separate forum only available to members (I remember reading an admin post on the site saying this and all ASADA/Drug related threads will be moved there).

It was a great read prior to that though!

  On 14/12/2013 at 06:04, PJ_12345 said:

I think during The Weapon's interview the site went into melt down so they made a separate forum only available to members (I remember reading an admin post on the site saying this and all ASADA/Drug related threads will be moved there).

It was a great read prior to that though!

I got the impression from looking at comments on other threads that it has been very recently removed.

  On 14/12/2013 at 05:53, old dee said:

Do they have a "LIKE" button?

They did but it was used too much after someone posted after a game. " The weapon and Dr.Dank have transformed our players into some of the most gifted athletes the AFL has ever seen"

  On 14/12/2013 at 06:11, sue said:

I got the impression from looking at comments on other threads that it has been very recently removed.

I was reading the thread on BomberBlitz yesterday. The posters were going ballistic about Demetriou and my guess is that one of the posters over there got stroppy and demanded it be removed on the grounds that it was just tasteless and puerile.

  On 14/12/2013 at 06:11, sue said:

I got the impression from looking at comments on other threads that it has been very recently removed.

Probably was, and just moved to the private forum for all ASADA/Drug threads, so people like us cant read it.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:16, PJ_12345 said:

Probably was, and just moved to the private forum for all ASADA/Drug threads, so people like us cant read it.

So what's to stop someone from registering and reading the private forum?

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:18, Whispering_Jack said:

So what's to stop someone from registering and reading the private forum?

A life...

Don't shoot the messenger. Just repeating what I read!

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:19, PJ_12345 said:

A life...

Don't shoot the messenger. Just repeating what I read!

Hey, wasn't shooting. Just asking --- I'm just thinking of joining to get in on the entertainment.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:28, Whispering_Jack said:

Hey, wasn't shooting. Just asking --- I'm just thinking of joining to get in on the entertainment.

"A life" wasn't meant to be rude; it's the only reason I can think of.

I just tried to make an account to see what else could stop me from just signing up and looking at the forum. It asked me an Essendon related question "to protect from spammers" and after I clicked register this popped up:

"Thank you XXX. Your registration has been successful. The administrator wishes to preview all new registered accounts before posting permissions are granted. The administrator has been notified of your registration."

^^^^^ best post on here

I enjoyed the post on Bomberblitz which complained about the Hird/whatever thread being removed because then he couldn't celebrate the victory of Hird getting his $1m. I have a bridge to sell to that fellow.

On the other hand, maybe he is wiser than I give him credit for. Paying Hird to keep out of the way overseas may reasonably be seen as a victory for Essendon supporters given the damage he has done.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:28, Whispering_Jack said:

Hey, wasn't shooting. Just asking --- I'm just thinking of joining to get in on the entertainment.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:33, PJ_12345 said:

"A life" wasn't meant to be rude; it's the only reason I can think of.

I just tried to make an account to see what else could stop me from just signing up and looking at the forum. It asked me an Essendon related question "to protect from spammers" and after I clicked register this popped up:

"Thank you XXX. Your registration has been successful. The administrator wishes to preview all new registered accounts before posting permissions are granted. The administrator has been notified of your registration."

Signed in but cant see any forums, not even the normal forums viewed as a guest.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:36, hogans_heroes said:

James Hird is a disgusting human being

Think of all the people out there homeless and starving, and this pathetic [censored] just steals a million dollars for doing nothing

Dirty filthy sociopathic nutjob who thinks hes a god because he chased a piece of leather around a grass oval.. Whoopey doo.....

Pathetic [censored] no shame or dignity. Go pump some more kids full of not for human use drugs you dirty dog.

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:40, biggestred said:

^^^^^ best post on here

Like like like!!!!!

  On 14/12/2013 at 07:36, hogans_heroes said:

James Hird is a disgusting human being

Think of all the people out there homeless and starving, and this pathetic [censored] just steals a million dollars for doing nothing

Dirty filthy sociopathic nutjob who thinks hes a god because he chased a piece of leather around a grass oval.. Whoopey doo.....

Pathetic [censored] no shame or dignity. Go pump some more kids full of not for human use drugs you dirty dog.

You're wrong in the sense that he earned his $1 million not for doing nothing, but for doing the wrong thing!

Hypothetically, if he is charged by ASADA what happens to the million?

If you're a paid up member would you be happy if you donated money to the club, particularly considering this has cost them to date just under $4 million, and Hird who was at the helm of all of this has been paid?!

He shouldn't have taken the money. Not with how much he has cost and damaged the club, players and supporters.

On the other hand maybe he knows what's coming and getting as much as he can get before the charges.

PS: Great last line! 4,000+ injections... OVER FOUR THOUSAND! What's more worrying is WorkSafe's silence.