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that all depends if the promise was scripted or not, or if u.n.c.l.e. Tony had his fingers crossed behind his back !

wink wink, nudge nudge

Always thought it had something to do with his month moving

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Always thought it had something to do with his month moving

??? oh mouth moving...

that just depends who's pulling his strings, & which script he has to memorise

democracy just a failed word these days. because no politicians speak without a fork on the tongue. just can't speak straight they can't.... even shorten sounds like he's reading from a sermon sheet. sounds unnatural & without any flow. too careful & concocted.

how does one trust any of these !!!

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??? oh mouth moving...

that just depends who's pulling his strings, & which script he has to memorise

democracy just a failed word these days. because no politicians speak without a fork on the tongue. just can't speak straight they can't.... even shorten sounds like he's reading from a sermon sheet. sounds unnatural & without any flow. too careful & concocted.

how does one trust any of these !!!

you're right about pollie trustworthiness d-l

but sadly they are just a reflection of the society we live in

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you're right about pollie trustworthiness d-l

but sadly they are just a reflection of the society we live in

yep, without delving into the church & stuff, we have all gotten too far ahead of ourselves Re competing, & by being just a bit too superficial.

competing has taken over from community, self over team.

This has been brought on by our 'pollies' driving change thru schools back in the 70's... making "success" more important than developing great young people. warm hearted loving kids who aren't afraid of expressing their feelings, communicating Honestly.

IMO politics has suffered the very same fate... that winning is everything ,"the only thing"

And just making good government to represent the peoples wishes is non-existent, because those pushing for parliament are sure they know better than the people themselves. which IMO is beside the point.

just applying the peoples wishes is the most important thing. = Democracy

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I wonder if Robbie F will ponce off like a big sook again now we know who he is?

No he will disappear again because he knows that I as his son knows he has returned and knows exactly what he has done. Can't hide forever Robbie. Karma is coming to get you !!

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C'mon Monk give him the good old fashioned Shirt Front!

The Ox and Marko were analysing this potential biffo last week. Looks like a miss match. Tony has a good left hook but Putin is a judo black belt, former KGB colonel and spy, firearms expert and swordsman. A shirtfront while he is not looking makes sense.

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The Ox and Marko were analysing this potential biffo last week. Looks like a miss match. Tony has a good left hook but Putin is a judo black belt, former KGB colonel and spy, firearms expert and swordsman. A shirtfront while he is not looking makes sense.

or as they say in sydney a good "shoulder charge"

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The Ox and Marko were analysing this potential biffo last week. Looks like a miss match. Tony has a good left hook but Putin is a judo black belt, former KGB colonel and spy, firearms expert and swordsman. A shirtfront while he is not looking makes sense.

tony trained to box as a kid, big deal. street fighting is totally different without a ring around you & a queens bury rule book & a referee.

I've watched 2 highly self fancied blackbelts go after one another in a carpark between the cars across the road from 'chasers' many many moons ago.... they were both hopeless

I would back in the street fighter, or un-armed combat expert every second of every day of a year... & physical strength.

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  • 2 weeks later...

It is 30 years late but I think we might be just about there with Goerge Brandis and his latest data retention laws. I am talking about the Orwellian vision of 1984 of course. Why do I feel like Winston Smith and that the Ministry of Truth ( News Corp) exists, and Big Brother is coming. There is already the perpetual wars between ourselves as part of Oceania against the disputed lands south of Eurasia (Iraq). I think we know who the inner party are and who are the proles, who need to be distracted with gambling, casual sex and sport to keep the social order intact.

Which piece of legislation are we in need of to make the conversion complete I wonder?

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The Brick with Eyes is now in the Senate....Murdoch must be so pleased with the continual dumbing down of the nations parliament.

they're comin' for Ya WYL...

If the butcher from U.N.C.L.E. Tony abbottoir Abbott has his way with you, you'll be merged with SBS & C31 to cut the ABC of budgetary costings, & sausage sizzles wyl be at an end.

beware the sound of little Jumbo's footsteps from the distance WYL.... that'll mean that Joes a'bboutta play Hockey with Ya.

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Apparently Tony did well today with the 20 top leaders in the world he was boasting about stopping the boats ( Indonesia not happy) dismantling the carbon tax ( US and China not happy) then he went on to lament his inability to charge the poor $7 to see a doctor ( most leaders dumbfounded) and that he was for building more roads (wtf). Thank heavens we have a leader who can so effortlessly strut the world stage.

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Apparently Tony did well today with the 20 top leaders in the world he was boasting about stopping the boats ( Indonesia not happy) dismantling the carbon tax ( US and China not happy) then he went on to lament his inability to charge the poor $7 to see a doctor ( most leaders dumbfounded) and that he was for building more roads (wtf). Thank heavens we have a leader who can so effortlessly strut the world stage.

...nah, he's just a retrospective sorta bloke is uncle Tone. hopefully retrospective enough to go backwards back to the womb, over in the Old Dart ?

his next carbon plan will be for us all to ride horses or bikes.... & no doubt will outlaw cremations as well.

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Apparently Tony did well today with the 20 top leaders in the world he was boasting about stopping the boats ( Indonesia not happy) dismantling the carbon tax ( US and China not happy) then he went on to lament his inability to charge the poor $7 to see a doctor ( most leaders dumbfounded) and that he was for building more roads (wtf). Thank heavens we have a leader who can so effortlessly strut the world stage.

So when is going to appoint James Hird as Sports Minister?

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Apparently Tony did well today with the 20 top leaders in the world he was boasting about stopping the boats ( Indonesia not happy) dismantling the carbon tax ( US and China not happy) then he went on to lament his inability to charge the poor $7 to see a doctor ( most leaders dumbfounded) and that he was for building more roads (wtf). Thank heavens we have a leader who can so effortlessly strut the world stage.

The Los Angeles Times called it Australia's embarrassing "awkward pimply youth moment". Hard to disagree.

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/uk-tories-slam-tony-abbott-on-climate-policy-20141120-11qos6.html#ixzz3Jf1RSj85

UK Tories slam Tony Abbott on climate policy

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Tony Abbott: described as "eccentric".

The attitude of Prime Minister Tony Abbott to the global challenges of climate change is "eccentric", "baffling" and "flat earther", according to a group of senior British Conservatives.

The group, including Prime Minister David Cameron's Minister for Energy and a former Thatcher Minister and chairman of the Conservative Party, says Mr Abbot's position on climate change represents a betrayal of the fundamental ideals of Conservatism and those of his political heroine, Margaret Thatcher.

In a series of wide-ranging, separate interviews on UK climate change policy with The Age, they warn that Australia is taking enormous risks investing in coal and will come under increasing market and political pressure to play its part in the global battle against climate change.

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Pressure predicted: Selwyn Gummer, Lord Deben, believes Tony Abbott has betrayed fundamental tenets of Conservatism. Photo: GreenBusiness.com

Their comments come almost 25 years to the day since former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher addressed the United Nations to place climate change on the global environmental agenda. "It is mankind and his activities which are changing the environment of our planet in damaging and dangerous ways," she said

Mr Abbott, as recently as June, insisted he should not be stereotyped as a conventional traditionalist, declaring he wanted to be a "reforming conservative" in the mould of Mrs Thatcher.

According to Lord Deben, chairman of the independent Climate Change Commission and a minister in both the Thatcher and Major governments, Australia will come under increasing market pressure to respond to the global shift toward renewable energy.

A former chairman of the British Conservative Party, Lord Deben said Mr Abbott has betrayed the fundamental tenets of conservatism itself.

"I have no doubt that people like David Cameron will be saying to Tony Abbott 'look conservatives are supposed to conserve, they are supposed to hand on to the next generation something better than they received themselves'."

Tim Yeo, chairman of the UK's parliamentary select committee on energy and climate change and a former environment minister under John Major, likened those who question the existence and the science of climate change as "the flat earthers of the 16th century".

"Some of us are very perplexed. I was last in Australia at the beginning of last year, before the election and had conversations with people on both sides of the political divide. I was amazed at some of the views.

"If I was Australian, I'd be concerned if my country's economic future and prosperity became dependent on continued coal export."

The United Kingdom led the world in 2008 by legislating for long-term, ambitious emissions reductions of 80 per cent by 2050 – and has already achieved a 25 per cent drop on 1990 levels. In June, David Cameron opened the world's largest offshore wind farm with 175 turbines in the Thames Estuary.

Almost 20 per cent of Britain's electricity is now produced by renewables, with eight per cent powered by wind – equivalent to about 6.5 million homes.

The UK's energy market reforms and the drive to transform the economy to a low carbon model are supported by all the major political parties.

Greg Barker, David Cameron's Minister for Energy and Climate Change until June this year said: "I think there is a lot of concern about Australia and yes, perhaps it is disproportionate versus its place in the global economy. But because of [our] close historical, emotional and family ties, people are concerned, slightly baffled by the approach that Australia is taking which looks, actually, slightly eccentric," he said.

Mr Abbott declined to comment.

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Rally in Fed Square on Sunday for the ABC....If you care about the National Broadcaster and wish it to continue to Archive Australia's History..

Then come in and show your support

This Government we have now are just Liars and Abbott is a complete psychopath

His speeches at the G20 tell me that...

They must be removed.

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