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I'm not after Robinson for his skills, just like Gold Coast weren't after a silky smooth footballer with Campbell Brown.

Robinson is a dumb, tough, battering ram. He is the sort of player that will make the nice boys like Toumpas and Trengove walk a little taller and give our side a harder edge.

I am so sick of the opposition walking off the field against Melbourne feeling fresh while Davey, Watts etc embrace the opposition with a hug and a kiss. A side with Robinson, Viney and Hogan (blokes that love smashing a body) will go a small way to changing that.

Get Robinson and I also suspect you go a fair way to getting his dumb partner in crime, Eddie Betts, as a free agent. Given some of the spuds we have on $500+ I'd happily pay the overs for Betts and stick him at the feet of Hogan and Dawes.

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      On 12/08/2013 at 09:17, Ron Burgundy said:

    Agree. I absolutely hate the guy, but, emotion aside, he's the sort of guy who could probably add a bit to our midfield (as long as we don't have to pay/trade too much).

    For the same reason I now think it is time to adios Watts, I would welcome Robinson. Less skills, less awareness but will fight for our team rather than pick and choose what battles to enter. Every time.

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      On 12/08/2013 at 02:14, Moonshadow said:

    How about...

    1. Swan or Beams (Coll), Kennedy (Syd)

    2. Greenwood (NM)

    3. Swallow (GC), Adams (GWS)

    4. Sewell (Haw), Dal Santo (StK)

    Pick 3 of those and our midfield would improve immensely. If they are what suits our needs, no harm trying. Go hard, if that's the case.

    Kennedy (Syd) Adams (GWS) Sewell (Haw)

    don't know enough about these boys to say, Greenwood (NM)? Swallow (GC)?

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    Lets be honest.. if you could pick 3 players out of these group and that Melbourne should target, who would they be and would you be willing to give away Jack Watts, Pick 2 and Colin Sylvia

    Mathew Stokes

    Dustin Martin

    Mitch Robinson

    Eddie Betts

    Tom Rockliff

    Dale Thomas

    Nick Dal Santo

    Adam Cooney

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      On 17/08/2013 at 02:59, Grimseyisgod said:

    Lets be honest.. if you could pick 3 players out of these group and that Melbourne should target, who would they be and would you be willing to give away Jack Watts, Pick 2 and Colin Sylvia

    Mathew Stokes

    Dustin Martin

    Mitch Robinson

    Eddie Betts

    Tom Rockliff

    Dale Thomas

    Nick Dal Santo

    Adam Cooney

    Easy. Martin, Thomas,Rockliff.

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      On 16/08/2013 at 14:44, trout said:

    Does anybody else think we should look at trying to lure Billie Smedts away from Geelong.

    Would be a good get, plenty of upside, smart footballer.

    Think it will be hard to prize him out of the cats though.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 02:59, Grimseyisgod said:

    Lets be honest.. if you could pick 3 players out of these group and that Melbourne should target, who would they be and would you be willing to give away Jack Watts, Pick 2 and Colin Sylvia

    Mathew Stokes

    Dustin Martin

    Mitch Robinson

    Eddie Betts

    Tom Rockliff

    Dale Thomas

    Nick Dal Santo

    Adam Cooney

    Please, I don't want to be rude, but Sylvia CANNOT be used in any trade. He is an Unrestricted Free Agent....he can go WHEREVER he wants.

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    FYI, Robinson was clearly second best player on the ground today against Richmond. 25 disposals (11contested) at 88%, 9 marks, 7 inside 50s, 5 tackles, 4 clearances and a goal. Not bad for a dud with no skills who "picks and chooses" his contests.

    I won't say who was best on ground.

    It was McLean.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:07, P_Man said:

    FYI, Robinson was clearly second best player on the ground today against Richmond. 25 disposals (11contested) at 88%, 9 marks, 7 inside 50s, 5 tackles, 4 clearances and a goal. Not bad for a dud with no skills who "picks and chooses" his contests.

    I won't say who was best on ground.

    It was McLean.

    It was Gibbs.

    But McLean was very good.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:07, P_Man said:

    FYI, Robinson was clearly second best player on the ground today against Richmond. 25 disposals (11contested) at 88%, 9 marks, 7 inside 50s, 5 tackles, 4 clearances and a goal. Not bad for a dud with no skills who "picks and chooses" his contests.

    I won't say who was best on ground.

    It was McLean.

    Couldnt agree more, some people have no idea , FMD he attacks the ball like a kamikaze pilot I would swap him for that pea heart JW any day.
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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:31, mjt said:

    Couldnt agree more, some people have no idea , FMD he attacks the ball like a kamikaze pilot I would swap him for that pea heart JW any day.

    Why would he come to Melbourne?

    Coin, you say?

    Okay, say we offer him 100k - 150k more than Carlton, I think he'll pick job satisfaction.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:31, mjt said:

    Couldnt agree more, some people have no idea , FMD he attacks the ball like a kamikaze pilot I would swap him for that pea heart JW any day.

    He doesn't always, like pretty well all players there are times when he chooses his contests. Marking contests are where he gets a bit iffy.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:39, jumbo returns said:

    Why would he come to Melbourne?

    Coin, you say?

    Okay, say we offer him 100k - 150k more than Carlton, I think he'll pick job satisfaction.

    Clubs trade players out for needs, they need JW we need another tough player to help Viney and Jones, this clubs not going to be on the bottom for ever it's the last 2 fools that coached us that have in this position, there's plenty of talent on our list and a good coach will make a huge difference, people might laugh at this but i think Gawn and Spencer are going to turn into very very good ruck man, hopefully this kid pulls up ok today and do yourself a favour and get to the G and support the club.
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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:26, jumbo returns said:

    It was Gibbs.

    But McLean was very good.

    Are you serious in suggesting it was Gibbs? McLean was CLEARLY BOG.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:39, jumbo returns said:

    Why would he come to Melbourne?

    Coin, you say?

    Okay, say we offer him 100k - 150k more than Carlton, I think he'll pick job satisfaction.

    Another demonstration of your defeatist attitude, and besides the point. We are discussing his value and whether the club should go after him, not whether he'd want to come. Some of the arguments against so far verge on ridiculous.

    "I don't like him" - and? who does?

    Not skilled enough for Melbourne? Really? Give me a spell.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:52, rjay said:

    He doesn't always, like pretty well all players there are times when he chooses his contests. Marking contests are where he gets a bit iffy.

    He took the most marks of anyone on the ground today,

    Just admit you are nitpicking. To question his attack on the footy is absurd.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 09:15, P_Man said:

    Another demonstration of your defeatist attitude, and besides the point. We are discussing his value and whether the club should go after him, not whether he'd want to come. Some of the arguments against so far verge on ridiculous.

    "I don't like him" - and? who does?

    Not skilled enough for Melbourne? Really? Give me a spell.

    Wow, take it easy P_Man....I was playing devil's advocate. Bryce Gibbs was named as best on a few radio stations, but I acknowledged McLean played well.

    Where did I say I didn't like him? Or mentioned his skill levels?

    Fyi, I'm neither here nor there with Robinson.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 12:41, jumbo returns said:

    Wow, take it easy P_Man....I was playing devil's advocate. Bryce Gibbs was named as best on a few radio stations, but I acknowledged McLean played well.

    Where did I say I didn't like him? Or mentioned his skill levels?

    Fyi, I'm neither here nor there with Robinson.

    I tire of the negativity is all. I'm guilty of it myself at times, and as a club we're getting nowhere until we think and act positively, and that includes the fans.

    I was referring to the arguments in general against going after someone like Robinson, which to me are thin.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 13:29, P_Man said:

    I tire of the negativity is all. I'm guilty of it myself at times, and as a club we're getting nowhere until we think and act positively, and that includes the fans.

    I was referring to the arguments in general against going after someone like Robinson, which to me are thin.

    Fair enough.

    I'm just being realist, as I've seen quite a few 'rebuilds.' I want to see players sign on the dotted line before I get too excited.

    I am, however, excited by the potential coaching line up that may include Simpson, Ling and Lenny Hayes.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 13:50, jumbo returns said:

    Fair enough.

    I'm just being realist, as I've seen quite a few 'rebuilds.' I want to see players sign on the dotted line before I get too excited.

    I am, however, excited by the potential coaching line up that may include Simpson, Ling and Lenny Hayes.

    Jumbo, I just can't get my head around this: you explain that you've seen numerous rebuilds and that this has affected your outlook. Each of these rebuilds has involved an inexperienced coach and you want to go inexperienced again?

    This just makes absolutely no sense. Experience should be priority right now because we have lacked people with knowledge of success, that has been the ultimate factor.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 13:56, Django said:

    Jumbo, I just can't get my head around this: you explain that you've seen numerous rebuilds and that this has affected your outlook. Each of these rebuilds has involved an inexperienced coach and you want to go inexperienced again?

    This just makes absolutely no sense. Experience should be priority right now because we have lacked people with knowledge of success, that has been the ultimate factor.

    Neil Craig at the helm, DJ.

    Then, a succession plan.

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    id rather just simpson than craig i reckon

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      On 17/08/2013 at 09:28, P_Man said:

    He took the most marks of anyone on the ground today,

    Just admit you are nitpicking. To question his attack on the footy is absurd.

    Probably am nitpicking but he does put in the short steps when coming back with the flight, he's ok when it's in front of him. I just don't go with the line about him being fearless or a kamikaze, that's more someone like J Brown who doesn't know whats good for him.

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      On 17/08/2013 at 08:07, P_Man said:

    FYI, Robinson was clearly second best player on the ground today against Richmond. 25 disposals (11contested) at 88%, 9 marks, 7 inside 50s, 5 tackles, 4 clearances and a goal. Not bad for a dud with no skills who "picks and chooses" his contests.

    I won't say who was best on ground.

    It was McLean.

    Just as there's no point judging him on his worst game I wouldn't be too quick to use his best game as the benchmark.

    He's just a player. Good for him that he had a good one yesterday.

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