WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - PAUL ROOS

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

why is that? Because our name is Melbourne? Hahaha.... Lot of good thats done so far....

Exactly.

They'd relocate Richmond before us.

Survival is currently the key issue for us, not relocation.

[rjay 24,883]

And I'll be happy when that sort of vindictiveness is eradicated from the club. It's exactly that attitude which has led the club to its current situation.

I wouldn't consider myself vindictive 'Jack' but I am still very angry at what happened at the club. It's not my attitude that led the club to where it is now it was poor decisions made and backed up by people who either agreed or wouldn't stand up when they should have.

The board review shows that they were ineffective and indeed derelict in their duties to run the club properly, I think we still need a clean sweep of the board and hope it happens.

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

I wouldn't consider myself vindictive 'Jack' but I am still very angry at what happened at the club. It's not my attitude that led the club to where it is now it was poor decisions made and backed up by people who either agreed or wouldn't stand up when they should have.

The board review shows that they were ineffective and indeed derelict in their duties to run the club properly, I think we still need a clean sweep of the board and hope it happens.

Agree to the above.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I wouldn't consider myself vindictive 'Jack' but I am still very angry at what happened at the club. It's not my attitude that led the club to where it is now it was poor decisions made and backed up by people who either agreed or wouldn't stand up when they should have.

The board review shows that they were ineffective and indeed derelict in their duties to run the club properly, I think we still need a clean sweep of the board and hope it happens.

... as a club, we would be more successful of the team was based out of the southern stand. because of the culture there.

[Redleg 40,837]

Discussing Wilson and leaving aside the MFC for a moment, has any journalist in the history of newspapers, called for more people to lose their jobs.

Most of her writing is negative and she constantly calls for people to be sacked, though not generally at the RichmondFC.

All of these people have families to support, but that obviously is of no concern to her. Robinson for example told of his suicide thoughts, but again that doesn't seem to concern her. Anyone seen a piece on that?

Where are her Flanagan pieces?

She seems to me a woman filled with hate of others.

[mjt 640]

She was neither correct nor accurate about CS but that matters little to the idiots that believe her .

CS was not the reason for this clubs dire predicament .

The blame falls at the feet of the players.

I played football a bit and the fact that I didn't like an administrator from my team never stopped me chasing or tackling .

Caroline Wilson is a rabid lapdog that leaks what she thinks is info that is fed to her by the AFL.

See her write any negative articles about the drugs at Richmond?

The only reason idiots like CS where spared was because of our Gaming Licences, it's as simple as that, but there's simpletons that can't swallow that, lose our pokies lose our club.

[Redleg 40,837]

The only reason idiots like CS where spared was because of our Gaming Licences, it's as simple as that, but there's simpletons that can't swallow that, lose our pokies lose our club.

You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that the AFL and the MFC's QC's agreed there was no evidence to prove a tanking charge and that if we were charged, the matter would end in Court, where we would win, the AFL would look stupid and then the MFC would demand the same treatment for all of the other clubs who did the same thing, do you? Then a deal was done where we were found innocent of tanking and yet fined a huge amount, that would ultimately be paid by the AFL, as will now happen.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Redleg

[Flying Cloud 152]

I reckon if this thread gets to 100 pages then he just has to take the job! No choice really.

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that the AFL and the MFC's QC's agreed there was no evidence to prove a tanking charge and that if we were charged, the matter would end in Court, where we would win, the AFL would look stupid and then the MFC would demand the same treatment for all of the other clubs who did the same thing, do you? Then a deal was done where we were found innocent of tanking and yet fined a huge amount, that would ultimately be paid by the AFL, as will now happen.

Do you think we should have gone to court Redleg or was the correct decision made?

I have always wished the club had shown more fight, but of course none of us knew the pathetic financial situation we were left with in February.

[mjt 640]

You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that the AFL and the MFC's QC's agreed there was no evidence to prove a tanking charge and that if we were charged, the matter would end in Court, where we would win, the AFL would look stupid and then the MFC would demand the same treatment for all of the other clubs who did the same thing, do you? Then a deal was done where we were found innocent of tanking and yet fined a huge amount, that would ultimately be paid by the AFL, as will now happen.

Who knows, one things for sure is those cowboys are gone and the clubs broke, and Paul Roos isn't coaching Melbourne.

[Blistering 538]

Do you think we should have gone to court Redleg or was the correct decision made?

I have always wished the club had shown more fight, but of course none of us knew the pathetic financial situation we were left with in February.

Supreme Court litigation would have cost the club at least $1m and even it won the case, where do you think we would be now in terms of getting financial and draft assistance from Vlad the Vengeful?

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

Supreme Court litigation would have cost the club at least $1m and even it won the case, where do you think we would be now in terms of getting financial and draft assistance from Vlad the Vengeful?

I understand that. But would it have given the club a backbone of strength that we do not have now, which is why i ask.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Supreme Court litigation would have cost the club at least $1m and even it won the case, where do you think we would be now in terms of getting financial and draft assistance from Vlad the Vengeful?

1 million are you sure?

I recently heard that the AFL and Essendon had spent a combined total of about 2-3 million and I assumed they would have spent a lot more than us. (all the Essendon staff/players basically have their own lawyers).

We should have just hired Harvey Specter - he could have won it single handed and even if we lost at least we would look a million bucks!

Edited August 10, 2013 by Young Dee

[jumbo returns 6,738]

Jumbo - just to confirm, you think PJ plans to move the team and you want Brett Kirk to be the senior coach?

What happened to you mate? I remember you being alot less...nuts. Has supporting this club finally made you crack? Would be understandable.

Hey P_Man, hope you're well.

No, I'm still here, albeit angry and seemingly delirious.

You and I both know that this next appointment has to be THE one. The names bandied around do not ignite any passion in me, bar Roos.

They are tired. No longer 'giants' in their chosen field. Think about a team of young, contemporary footballers, not long out of the game - they know culture, tactics, fitness, an ability to build capacity in the skill sets of players and they have marketing nous.

I don't want sympathy from anyone in the AFL!

As for PJ? I'll reserve my judgement....as tatu so eloquently reported, he lacks the 'emotional connection' to the club.

Talk soon.

[mjt 640]

I understand that. But would it have given the club a backbone of strength that we do not have now, which is why i ask.

It just doesn't register with you does it, your very slow off the mark, the AFL controls us, we lost our club because of those cowboys, I bet you CC accepts his 2 year payout from the AFL, he should be [censored] ashamed of himself and stripped of his life membership, PJ OTC the other night summed up people like cuddles perfectly, Goodbye your not welcome.

[Demonsterative 3,020]

A court case would not have given the club a backbone. If that statement was true, every club would take the AFL to court over other issues. Salary cap concessions, the crows losing draft picks etc etc.

The fact is a court case was a lose/lose for all parties. It would serve those who are [censored] at the club and the AFL only.

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

It just doesn't register with you does it, your very slow off the mark, the AFL controls us, we lost our club because of those cowboys, I bet you CC accepts his 2 year payout from the AFL, he should be [censored] ashamed of himself and stripped of his life membership, PJ OTC the other night summed up people like cuddles perfectly, Goodbye your not welcome.

I get it & i actually agree with you if you read carefully enough.

I have always said CS should have been frog marched out after 186.

CC's payout makes me very angry. So what doesn't register mjt??

[sue 9,096]

The only reason idiots like CS where spared was because of our Gaming Licences, it's as simple as that, but there's simpletons that can't swallow that, lose our pokies lose our club.

Who knows, one things for sure is those cowboys are gone and the clubs broke, and Paul Roos isn't coaching Melbourne.

I enjoy your consistency. You say "The only reason idiots like CS were spared" and then in reply to Redleg offering other more credible reasons, you say 'Who knows'. I now know I shouldn't take you hyperbole too seriously in future and won't bite. You just want to put the boot into CS & CC and defend C Wilson at every opportunity. I can understand the former but not the latter.

Edited August 10, 2013 by sue

[mjt 640]

I get it & i actually agree with you if you read carefully enough.

I have always said CS should have been frog marched out after 186.

CC's payout makes me very angry. So what doesn't register mjt??

Taking the AFL to court doesn't register, you say it would've given us a backbone and I say it would've left us a quadriplegic .

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Supreme Court litigation would have cost the club at least $1m and even it won the case, where do you think we would be now in terms of getting financial and draft assistance from Vlad the Vengeful?

Spot on.

There's a lot of mindless tough talking that goes on here.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Do you think we should have gone to court Redleg or was the correct decision made?

I have always wished the club had shown more fight, but of course none of us knew the pathetic financial situation we were left with in February.

Sorry but I can't help myself!

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

Next Wednesday night is the Foundation Heroes dinner. It is going to be bloody hard to extract cash from members this time around. That is why i pose the question to Redleg.

If the club had gone to court and put up a fight i think supporters would be far more focused to jump in.

At present i don't think supporters really care because we arejust so bad.

The gaming licences were definately a large consideration

[jumbo returns 6,738]

Next Wednesday night is the Foundation Heroes dinner. It is going to be bloody hard to extract cash from members this time around. That is why i pose the question to Redleg.

If the club had gone to court and put up a fight i think supporters would be far more focused to jump in.

At present i don't think supporters really care because we arejust so bad.

The gaming licences were definately a large consideration

Trying to raise coin to 'keep' players.....which players???

[jazza 1,323]

Trying to raise coin to 'keep' players.....which players???

we couldn't be paying the same price as other clubs for the list we have? couldn't be could we?

[Sir Why You Little 36,979]

Trying to raise coin to 'keep' players.....which players???

We need to raise money for far more than just the playing group JR.