Dees to meet AFL Commission today - the latest from Caro.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Sorry C and B I don't believe that

No one suggested from my memory that Cook would go first round.

Lots suggested Strauss and Gysberts were taken way earlier than expected.

you may be right on those three, but the picks they were taken at were in later more speculative region, I was referring to the top 5 more so

plenty of misses from all clubs around those late first round picks

[DemonOX 8,817]

Saw this in a HS article

""(The) AFL Commission will support Melbourne in its reconstruction. Now (it) will determine level of financial support required to turn around its fortunes"

This is good news it just a decision on the level of $$$$$$$$

Onwards and upwards.

[Pennant St Dee 13,323]

Funny how the clubs that have received probably the lowest number of top 20 picks, Sydney and Geelong, have had the most success. It says a lot about our atrocious recruiting and coaching.

They recruit well and develop well, but IAH Scarlett & Ablett went FS before the changes and both would have been first rounders, I agree if you recruit well you can be set up for 10 years, Geelong basically set themselves up with the 1999 & 2001 drafts

[What 18,810]

Confirmed that we have asked for a Priority Pick as part of the package

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-president-don-mclardy-stands-down/story-fni5f91a-1226663852725

[Japaljarri 28]

They recruit well and develop well, but IAH Scarlett & Ablett went FS before the changes and both would have been first rounders, I agree if you recruit well you can be set up for 10 years, Geelong basically set themselves up with the 1999 & 2001 drafts

If you read the press at the time Ablett was only rated late first round, early second round. Scarlett was rated much later than that.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

If you read the press at the time Ablett was only rated late first round, early second round. Scarlett was rated much later than that.

That's why a good recruiting team will form their own assessments and not just go along with the heard like we do. It seems as if some just think "big footy" when they are looking at the draft.

[pm24 451]

Confirmed that we have asked for a Priority Pick as part of the package

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-president-don-mclardy-stands-down/story-fni5f91a-1226663852725

Well the title suggests that but the article only states that we asked for "draft assistance". It makes sense that it means a priority pick, but I think until the commission makes a decision, I'm not going to believe something just because the HUN says it.

[Bring Back Barassi 552]

Well the title suggests that but the article only states that we asked for "draft assistance". It makes sense that it means a priority pick, but I think until the commission makes a decision, I'm not going to believe something just because the HUN says it.

The article on afl.com.au says the rescue package includes "a combination of picks and finances". Picks, plural.

http://www.afl.com.au/afl/news/2013-06-14/conditional-support-for-dees

Edited June 14, 2013 by Bring Back Barassi

[Flying Cloud 152]

Confirmed that we have asked for a Priority Pick as part of the package

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-president-don-mclardy-stands-down/story-fni5f91a-1226663852725

If they didn't ask you would have to question their competence. I am sure the Saints and Bulldogs will be considering if they ask this year or next.

[deanox 10,025]

Reckon the draft picks will come with a lot of conditions ie first AFL is satisfied we are sorted out off field, then they will want the picks to impact our onfield performances straight away - that is their biggest concern and I don't think stockpiling 18 year olds will help us in the short term.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

i don't get it, are we asking for a pick regardless of what happens for the rest of the year? if we continue the way we are going doesn't that give us a pick without having to ask for it? conversely, if we happen to win a few more and not meet the criteria do we want a pick anyway? or have i missed the point and priority picks are not supposed to even exist anymore?

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

That bottom feeder Damien Barrett is very confident we will NOT get a priority pick.

[rpfc 28,843]

i don't get it, are we asking for a pick regardless of what happens for the rest of the year? if we continue the way we are going doesn't that give us a pick without having to ask for it? conversely, if we happen to win a few more and not meet the criteria do we want a pick anyway? or have i missed the point and priority picks are not supposed to even exist anymore?

To me, and AD did say that the mention of Picks came at the end of the meeting and was not at the core of our plan, that we are simply getting in early and trying to make sure the AFL doesn't bow to the pressure of flogs like Barrett and co. that say we shouldn't get a pick.

No-one deserves a PP, but we should get one. For the betterment of the competition.

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

Seven years of abject failure with a winning percentage of less than 23% would be, I would have thought, the very definition of a side that's deserving of a priority pick.

[rpfc 28,843]

Seven years of abject failure with a winning percentage of less than 23% would be, I would have thought, the very definition of a side that's deserving of a priority pick.

I think what people have issue with is the word 'deserve'...

[deanox 10,025]

Not deserves, no one deserves. We require. Subtle but important difference.

No club will ever again be given any assistance because they deserve it, only if they require it.

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

Semantics.

Deserve, require, are deserving of - it all comes down to seven consecutive years of abject on-field failure.

The AFL Commission has made a rod for its own back by not codifying what 'earns' qualification status for a priority pick.

If seven consecutive years rooted in the bottom half of the ladder doesn't qualify for a pick, then what does? A Richmond-esque 10 years? If so we could be back begging in three years time!

[jackaub 1,402]

Saw this in a HS article

""(The) AFL Commission will support Melbourne in its reconstruction. Now (it) will determine level of financial support required to turn around its fortunes"

This is good news it just a decision on the level of $$$$$$$$

Onwards and upwards.

So how much will it cost to get rid of Connolly? What we have done is waste a lot of money on serial underperformers who have been part of a massive coverup by people who should have known better

Gaining AFL assistance is a massive vote of no confidence in the people who run this club

Its a total disgarce Another President goes No one is willing to tell the truth

No wonder the club cant perform on the field

[deanox 10,025]

Semantics.

Deserve, require, are deserving of - it all comes down to seven consecutive years of abject on-field failure.

The AFL Commission has made a rod for its own back by not codifying what 'earns' qualification status for a priority pick.

If seven consecutive years rooted in the bottom half of the ladder doesn't qualify for a pick, then what does? A Richmond-esque 10 years? If so we could be back begging in three years time!

I think it's very important. We require assistance to get back on track and I think we'll get it but at the same time I can understand people saying we don't deserve it because we have brought so much on ourselves.

The tanking drama ensured that no one will ever earn or deserve a priority pick again.

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

Campaign by other clubs has begun in earnest on today's radio broadcasts - every club person I've ears about us is arguing that we don't deserve one.

Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.

[DemonOX 8,817]

So how much will it cost to get rid of Connolly? What we have done is waste a lot of money on serial underperformers who have been part of a massive coverup by people who should have known better

Gaining AFL assistance is a massive vote of no confidence in the people who run this club

Its a total disgarce Another President goes No one is willing to tell the truth

No wonder the club cant perform on the field

At least this is being recognised now and we are working to fix it FINALLY j

[Sir Why You Little 37,242]

I can fully understand other clubs objections. Imagine if it was Nought Melbourne after 7 years.

We would want them out.

I would prefer the AFL to assist clearing debts, assist head hunting key employment positions.

I want to see the club roll up the sleeves get dirty and learn to work harder.

Now if we need a Jeff Kennett style president to preside and delegate so be it.

A PP is just another easy way out.

Not what our current idium needs.

[45HG 1,559]

Campaign by other clubs has begun in earnest on today's radio broadcasts - every club person I've ears about us is arguing that we don't deserve one.

Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.

Can't see why a rival club would come out and argue for Melbourne getting a leg up.

Deserving of AFL help is irrelevant, IMO.

[daisycutter 29,799]

I can fully understand other clubs objections. Imagine if it was Nought Melbourne after 7 years.

We would want them out.

I would prefer the AFL to assist clearing debts, assist head hunting key employment positions.

I want to see the club roll up the sleeves get dirty and learn to work harder.

Now if we need a Jeff Kennett style president to preside and delegate so be it.

A PP is just another easy way out.

Not what our current idium needs.

a PP (or some other drafting advantage) is not just an easy way out, it would just be one part of a multi-faceted plan to reconstruct the club.

if the list doesn't get a boost then it will take years and years to get competitive on the field, further damaging the club and the competition/

Part of the overall plan to get mfc competitive in a "reasonable" amount of time involves some quick action on the list

The supporters, the afl and other stakeholders won't wait seven or more years for the club to competitive on the field

[Redleg 41,757]

Seven years of abject failure with a winning percentage of less than 23% would be, I would have thought, the very definition of a side that's deserving of a priority pick.

Not according to some on here and in the media.

Being bad for a number of years is not the reason you should get a PP. It obviously has to do with something else. Maybe you need a certain amount of players with blue eyes to qualify.