One word = turnovers.

Our kicking inside 50 is so bad, all the hard through the middle of the ground comes to nothing, as we kick anywhere except to the benefit of our forwards. And then, on the turnover, all our players are in attacking and not defensive position.

Update on dawes?

Seeing Watts refuse to run in a straight line there was so bloody frustrating. Thank God Brown was soft as butter too.

2 things really hurt us there. Kicking into our f50 and some disgraceful umpiring.

Umpiring is a bit "interesting". Effort is there but kicking inside 50 is horrible.

Can not buy a free, but it's the kicking inside 50 that is killing us. What I would give to have Clarke out there.

Toumpas lacks penetration with his kicking, he has been better today but that effort on Swan was unforgivable.

I wouldn't pay out on Watt's efforts today. He has used his pace and run through a few packs in straight lines, getting through 3 and four players. Look elsewhere for the reason for our probable loss.

Dunn in particular - horrible.

Fitzy look way out of his league.

Inside 50 kicking by Toumpas, Evans, M Jones and Kent.

Toumpas lacks penetration with his kicking, he has been better today but that effort on Swan was unforgivable.

Yep, classic mistake from a kid...needed to stay between Swan and the goals but opened them up for him.

Son and heir tells me dawes is a knee. If he's winding me up I'll wore him out of the will and he won't get the postman pat bike. Any update?

Kent has a nice bit of mongrel about him, classic move hitting Maxwell in the leg when attempting to get the ball. Loved the tackle on the wing dumping Blair and standing over him. Some good run and chase, we need to get games into him and he will really pay us back.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why watts had a free paid AGAINST him for holding in the goal square when he was doing his best impression of the angel of the north?

Can anyone enlighten me as to why watts had a free paid AGAINST him for holding in the goal square when he was doing his best impression of the angel of the north?

NFI. Normally as soon as you turn your back on the ball and grapple the defender has a free against.

Blease 10 kicks,6 turnovers,like Magner he can't kick.

Kent has a nice bit of mongrel about him, classic move hitting Maxwell in the leg when attempting to get the ball. Loved the tackle on the wing dumping Blair and standing over him. Some good run and chase, we need to get games into him and he will really pay us back.

Love his grunt and effort. Love him standing over the Pies playing he tackled over the line on the far side of the ground. But his kicking is poor in general play. He misses targets when they are easy to hit.

Blease 10 kicks,6 turnovers,like Magner he can't kick.

Yep, really poor. He gets the ball, looks up and sees an target, settles (all the right things to do) and then.... kicks horribly. I just don't get it. He is even chasing and tackling.

Toumpas lacks penetration with his kicking, he has been better today but that effort on Swan was unforgivable.

If it's not Trengove's pace or Hogan's set-shot routine it's Toumpas and a lack of penetration. Chip on shoulder much??? I often see your name attached to young players flaws.

His effort on Swan wasn't great but his kicking is sublime. Did you miss the bullet pass to Watts in the first?

Anyone watching the telecast, Luke Darcy mentioned that someone had firmed for the Head of Football position. Did anyone hear who he was talking about?

Anyone watching the telecast, Luke Darcy mentioned that someone had firmed for the Head of Football position. Did anyone hear who he was talking about?

My bet is Tom Harley.

Some of our new boys have been great today. Terlich, M. Jones and Kent. I feel safe with the ball in Terlich's hands.

Boys and girls, I'm at the game, first quarter in behind our goals, second quarter watched from hff. First off, I will say that we have been man on man all over the ground at most times. Even towards the end of this quarter. Ill mention the umpires being maggots, but that is a direct insult to maggots. Our effort is very high. Our run and spread is also very high. The thing about afl footy, is when you run and spread offensively and you turn the footy over heading into f50, you leave the back half of the ground as wide open as a bad girls knees. What's shown is exactly that, 4 or 5 times that half we went forward and turned it straight over at our CHF, and they went straight through us. No coaching can help change bad decision making upon forward 70m entries.

Ill give you a full run down later, but watts has run hard and played well, but jeez we burn him with disposal going to him...

Disgraceful kick from McDonald.

damn.

TMc cant kick to save himself

Tommy Mac doesn't want to kick for good reason. He'll get better.