Pates 9,697 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I think he talks out of his ass most of the time but I gotta say I agree with this. It solves many problems. Firstly I think the responsibilities are too much for Trenners to take on his own at the moment. He really needs to focus on his game more than anything else, with Jones as his co-captain he can do that. Secondly I think most people can agree that Jones is the only one apart from Clark who consistently leads from the front. Although I this Grimes can become a good captain for us, we can't have someone with the form of Trenners as a sole captain. Thirdly I think it rewards Nathan for his hard work over the last 3 years, he is the heart and sole of our club and I reckon it would officially recognise that. With Grimes injury I think we can also do it while saving a bit of face, with everyone in the media constantly saying Jones should be captain we can just say that we feel Trengove needs support at this time.
Chook 15,088 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I'm surprised Walls hasn't called for Neeld to give Trengove a run in the ruck. Making Jones our captain (at the expense of Trengove) mid-season would be a terrible move. The only thing I could see us doing is appointing him our third co-captain while Grimes is injured. I'd back this move, but anything else would be moronic and possibly harmful to the culture of our club.
Pates 9,697 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 I'm surprised Walls hasn't called for Neeld to give Trengove a run in the ruck. Making Jones our captain (at the expense of Trengove) mid-season would be a terrible move. The only thing I could see us doing is appointing him our third co-captain while Grimes is injured. I'd back this move, but anything else would be moronic and possibly harmful to the culture of our club. That's exactly what he's saying, keep Trengove as co-captain and elevate Jones to a co-captain.
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Don't do it, prob make Jones get injured or lose form
CHAMP 347 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 That's exactly what he's saying, keep Trengove as co-captain and elevate Jones to a co-captain. Nothing wrong with 3 Captains, it's been done before.
Chook 15,088 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 That's exactly what he's saying, keep Trengove as co-captain and elevate Jones to a co-captain. Ok then. I guess that might be alright. I just am not sure what it actually accomplishes.
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 That's exactly what he's saying, keep Trengove as co-captain and elevate Jones to a co-captain. Nothing wrong with 3 Captains, it's been done before. Thats right, just easing the tension baby. All about easing the captaincy tension.
Grand New Flag 3,227 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Another problem of our coaches own making. No disrespect to our Captains, but they were too young and too inexperienced. One of Jones, Rivers, Moloney or maintaing Green for one more year was the answer. I think where would our club be today if one of the older guys were made Captain in 2012. The answer is a much better place than we are today. Neeld has got to go.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 If not Jones, colin Garland could also be a pretty decent co captain in my opinion.
Cheap Seats 3,310 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 If not Jones, colin Garland could also be a pretty decent co captain in my opinion. Outside the box Demonfan - I like it Garland has impressed me this season - kudos to him - Wouldn't object to increasing the captaincy to carry the loan
Cheap Seats 3,310 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Neeld has got to go. Haha - ahh lawdy one thread not enough GNF Pretty sure i saw a young Neeld on the grassy knoll as well
Chook 15,088 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 A leader is a man who leads; a captain is a man who tosses a coin every week. Nathan Jones is a leader. He needs no titles.
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,394 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 How about everyone stops worrying about who runs out first and tosses the coin and the leadership group just all do their bit. This is what should be happening anyway.
Rhino Richards 1,467 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 How about everyone stops worrying about who runs out first and tosses the coin and the leadership group just all do their bit. This is what should be happening anyway. Agree. We wrongly dumped the pressure of co captaincy on a young kid funding his way. The club has seen fit to leave him exposed to the taint of I appropriately taking substances. To dilute the responsibility of captaincy on Trengove given Grimes injury would be an added insult. On field leadership is not the burning issue. We should indeed be worrying more about what happens after the coin is tossed. This should looked at y/e once the Club has dealt with important off field positions.
Deemotivated 550 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 He speaks at just about every media conference instead of the "captains" now so give him the title and send trenners off to get right.
Wadda We Sing 10,685 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Hell lets make all of them captain.....that way theres no issue except um oh yeah the coin toss
dee-luded 2,959 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I think he talks out of his ass most of the time but I gotta say I agree with this. It solves many problems. Firstly I think the responsibilities are too much for Trenners to take on his own at the moment. He really needs to focus on his game more than anything else, with Jones as his co-captain he can do that. Secondly I think most people can agree that Jones is the only one apart from Clark who consistently leads from the front. Although I this Grimes can become a good captain for us, we can't have someone with the form of Trenners as a sole captain. Thirdly I think it rewards Nathan for his hard work over the last 3 years, he is the heart and sole of our club and I reckon it would officially recognise that. With Grimes injury I think we can also do it while saving a bit of face, with everyone in the media constantly saying Jones should be captain we can just say that we feel Trengove needs support at this time. ...actually thats an intersting concept... i think we can all see that JT isn't fully fit for some reason... and if he were to have to have a rest in the next 10 days or so, we may have to look for some others to be leaders for a week or 2 ??? In that scenario we may have to look at Jonesy, but also Jones was tagged out recently, 7 IMo it may be helpful in a scenario where both our captains were injured & Clark also, that we may look to a couple of guys to lead? maybe Jones & Sylvia, to fight for their Club with its back to the Walls. ... this may bring the best out of the pair, & add another level to Cols attributes?
Clark_Kent 315 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Captain is just a word. I'd say Jones is already very much a leader on and off the field anyway. He probably places the responsibility to step up while Grimes is out on himself anyway.
Suzanna 72 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Funny I should be reading this right now - they are talking about it on Footy Classified right this very second...
stuie 7,374 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I think those saying "captain is just a title" are missing the point. It's not about making Jones captain, it's about taking some pressure off a young developing footballer who is a fantastic bloke but needs to focus just on his own game right now.
Yossarian 1,820 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I think those saying "captain is just a title" are missing the point. It's not about making Jones captain, it's about taking some pressure off a young developing footballer who is a fantastic bloke but needs to focus just on his own game right now. I'm ok with it. Would need to be handled well though.
fuchsia 37 Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 i love nathan as much as any player previously pulled on a jumper, if only judged by his grit and determination.& consistancy.. but unfortunately he is seen or comes across as not the smartest tool in the shed..& as such shoots himself in the foot.. too nice & not as quick on the uptake in the iq stakes..( ala maloney.. )
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