clearly wines is better than toumpas right now, as to the future, time will tell, end of story

Those of you saying we wasted a pick and the Toump will be nothing have no clue and should shut their mouths.

The kid has played 3 games, in an average losing margin of over 100 points. Enough and shut it.

The Toump will definitely show something throughout the year and will grit his teeth and fight like a gun.

There is a reason he was so hyped, and you'll see it.

We have seen it with Watts, just not with consistency.

I BELIEVE Toump is even better.

Have some bloody faith

Whats your beef, the club deserves every bit of criticism it gets, you been sitting in the cheer squad to long.

You certainly are consistent, bag the club nearly every post. It really is tiresome.

There is a very long way to go. And I get the distinct gut impression that this is a bloke who won't like failing and has the will to succeed. This is no Cale Morton IMO.

There is a very long way to go. And I get the distinct gut impression that this is a bloke who won't like failing and has the will to succeed. This is no Cale Morton IMO.

Are you saying that Cale Morton had...

We have been force-fed excrement by the club for so long that we wouldn't know lobster if we tasted it. Give him time.

He just looks lost. He gets caught every time he gets the ball, can't think quickly and doesn't seem overly passionate. Don't really know where he fits in terms of positioning either. I know that there's always that argument about him being young and our developing and our recruiting sucks and we should wait with him and so on, but he's definitely been a disappointment.

Was very ordinary today before getting injured.

His skills are pretty good, but I can't find anything else of note (especially for a top 4 draft pick).

Was very ordinary today before getting injured.

His skills are pretty good, but I can't find anything else of note (especially for a top 4 draft pick).

I did not watch the game, what happened to him?

I did not watch the game, what happened to him?

Rolled ankle, went down like he'd been shot so I thought it may have been broken.

Rolled ankle, went down like he'd been shot so I thought it may have been broken.

They were concerned about his lateral ligaments

CB, I thought he looked significantly less lost than previously. He will be a player. Back him in.

According to Neeld in his press conference: "Toumpas rolled his ankle, was up running around in the rooms. Wasn't able to get back out on the field."

Edited May 19, 201312 yr by hardtack

CB, I thought he looked significantly less lost than previously. He will be a player. Back him in.

Agreed, looked to have greater awareness and composure. People need to remember he's played about 5 games and is 18. Lets not expect him to set the world on fire just yet, regardless of his draft number.

According to Neeld in his press conference: "Toumpas rolled his ankle, was up running around in the rooms. Wasn't able to get back out on the field."

wow, if that is how Toumpas acted over a rolled ankle, I would hate to see him have a real injury...

Rolled ankle, went down like he'd been shot so I thought it may have been broken.

Obviously I'm no doctor, and some of the worst injuries can be very innocuous, but it looked like he didn't handle a very simple injury very well. I have been developing an idea about Jimmy Toumpas over the past eight weeks, and that incident played right into what I suspect might be the case with him.

I'm not willing to write such a young guy off right now, but it does not appear that he has what it takes.

Edited May 19, 201312 yr by Chook

Agreed, looked to have greater awareness and composure. People need to remember he's played about 5 games and is 18. Lets not expect him to set the world on fire just yet, regardless of his draft number.

So how long do we have before criticise him like we do with Jack Watts?

According to Neeld in his press conference: "Toumpas rolled his ankle, was up running around in the rooms. Wasn't able to get back out on the field."

So out for 6-8 weeks then?

Mitch Clark went down like he was shot with a rolled ankle in round 1. Michael Hurely the same a few weeks ago.

Anyone else want to call a guy soft. He pushed the doctors off and ran off eventually.

So how long do we have before criticise him like we do with Jack Watts?

I think Watts if anything has taught us to lower our expectations. I have never seen Watts do anything thats suggests he is a potential superstar - at least Toumpas hit a couple of contests today and that is all I want from him now - desire (something Watts has still never shown)

wow, if that is how Toumpas acted over a rolled ankle, I would hate to see him have a real injury...

You're pathetic.

You're pathetic.

Right.....

Well, I guess it gives the doomsayers the opportunity to say that, even at this early stage, we should definitely have picked Wines, so at least some here will be happy.

Like Watts vs Natunui

By the way, how do they feel Wines and NicNat would be going in a team totally devoid of leaders or direction?

Edited May 19, 201312 yr by monoccular

You're pathetic.

I think I might have to agree with Benson here. I've had some very severe ankle injuries in the past, and I never reacted anything like that. It was reminiscent of the Gary Lyon stretcher incident (not least because they look a little alike).

But that's a good point the Master has to make about Clark, who I would not ever call soft. The human body is such a weird device that you can never be certain how it will react to different (but seemingly similar) injuries.

Edited May 19, 201312 yr by Chook

If you do a good job of rolling your ankle the initial pain is bloody painful. He eventually limped off the ground, give the kid a break FFS.