Mitch was our only reliable big man out there today.

Jamar and Sellars for that matter are not worthy of an AFL game right now.

Let us hope that Dawes will add something to that glaring inadequacy.

I have completely forgotten Dawes. Must be sitting there thinking what the fark was I thinking.

Edited April 13, 201312 yr by Forest Demon

Jamar out and gawn in

otherwise i am done

Right now, with Gillies, Sellar and Jamar we have three of the least effective players in the comp generally running around in the 1s (Gillies aside for this week). The sooner we don't need guys like this the better it will be for all of us

Agree with the sentiment here. It's wrong to just say 'look at the hit outs'; many of them were straight to WC players or into the ground, rather than to our advantage.

And don't even get me started on his 'influence' around the ground. Some contests he just rucks, then stands there waiting to see what happens.

He can't kick, he doesn't kick, he can't mark, he doesn't mark.

I'm done.

he is by far the worst afl player to ever play 100 games!

There's a fair bit of competition for that.

Matthew Bate, for one.

Lynden Dunn, for another.

I thought he did well at the center bounces... Better than the last few weeks

I thought his centre bounce work was great. But apart from that he was truly hopeless. Why can't he pick up the ball off the ground when there is no pressure? Has to be Casey-bound now that Gawn is ready to go.

Jamar is pathetic ruckman now, he is done and dusted as an AFL player.

So is Davey.

I thought he did well at the center bounces... Better than the last few weeks

He contested the hit outs but that is all. Once he's "gone up" for the tap he's as much of a spectator as I am.

Jamar is pathetic ruckman now, he is done and dusted as an AFL player.

So is Davey.

Agree on Jamar, but Davey's been surprisingly good in his two games this year. We just need to expect a lot less of him these days.

Jamar is pathetic ruckman now, he is done and dusted as an AFL player.

So is Davey.

I think Davey has played his role in both games so far.

Jamar is one of the more extraordinary case studies in sports history. He's played one good year in a career stretching 11.

He needs to be on the motivational speaking circuit.

Edited April 13, 201312 yr by MH.

He and Royal are the big issues with the Melbourne midfield. His work rate is atrocious. He doesn't get to contests. He's too slow. He offers nothing up forward. He taps generally straight to his feet. Rarely marks those kick ins on the back flank. He needs to go. Bring in Spencer. Gawn should be brought in once match fit. A hopeless decision to re-sign him for three years.

If only he could mark.

When Jamar handballed a shot at goal to another player who was under pressure, I couldn't even use use words. I just kind of roared loud and incoherently. Scared the hell out of my children. Thanks Mark Jamar.

You useless trash of a player this bloke does NOTHING around the ground! he is by far the worst afl player to ever play 100 games! get in spener or gawn atleast they show heart and work ethic!

Go and support another team mate, what have you ever done in your life?? Have you ever made the grade in Afl?

What gives you the right to call him trash.

Some people on these boards are nothing short of pathetic!

Go and support another team mate, what have you ever done in your life?? Have you ever made the grade in Afl?

What gives you the right to call him trash.

Some people on these boards are nothing short of pathetic!

Right. All non-AFL players on this board must now stop commenting, as, according to Grimes is Great, none of us are able to form an opinion.

Right. All non-AFL players on this board must now stop commenting, as, according to Grimes is Great, none of us are able to form an opinion.

A fair selection of the media will be in trouble too.

I'm thinking a bit differently why not play jamar and gawn so at least our midfield gets first use at some time and drop pedersen. Forward pressure means little if the ball is there. If it doesn't work at least Gawn has had an easier return to afl and then can ruck alone the week after.

Certainly think Jamar was better in the ruck today but awful around the ground

Right. All non-AFL players on this board must now stop commenting, as, according to Grimes is Great, none of us are able to form an opinion.

It's about respect.

Obviously you have none.

I'm thinking a bit differently why not play jamar and gawn so at least our midfield gets first use at some time and drop pedersen. Forward pressure means little if the ball is there. If it doesn't work at least Gawn has had an easier return to afl and then can ruck alone the week after.

Certainly think Jamar was better in the ruck today but awful around the ground

Admittedly some of his taps happened to go to MFC mids today, but I think our expectations are so low of Jamar these days that today's performance would still be deemed hopeless by every other AFL club.

Agree with the sentiment here. It's wrong to just say 'look at the hit outs'; many of them were straight to WC players or into the ground, rather than to our advantage.

And don't even get me started on his 'influence' around the ground. Some contests he just rucks, then stands there waiting to see what happens.

He can't kick, he doesn't kick, he can't mark, he doesn't mark.

I'm done.

There's a fair bit of competition for that.

Matthew Bate, for one.

Lynden Dunn, for another.

Brad Miller

He needs to do himself a favour and retire. Stay on as our ruck coach but for god's sake put yourself out of our misery please!!!

Stay on as our ruck coach you must be kidding.

Please put yourself out of misery for suggesting that.

Edited April 13, 201312 yr by Chippy

Show some respect mate, sure he's playing average but he did beat Cox in hitouts. He is a hundred game player for the Club that we love, give him a bit.

"Hitouts" is the most useless stat in the game. What good is winning a hit out if it doesn't go to our advantage? None.

He had one kick today which was ineffective. He has had ONE effective kick for the year. Get Spencer in of put Clark in the ruck, Jamar is not only poor he is actually a liability to the team.

Go and support another team mate, what have you ever done in your life?? Have you ever made the grade in Afl?

What gives you the right to call him trash.

Some people on these boards are nothing short of pathetic!

If you don't like reality opinions on some of our so called senior players then beat it

If only he could mark.

Why? He'd only dish it off in a panic to a teammate under pressure.