FD he has been an average footballer in a p--- weak team for the last five years.

What you see is what you get.

Average

Exactly my point Old Dee. He is decent, nothing better, nothing worse.

I hope everyone is still panicking...

I hope everyone is still panicking...

about what JL?

When it comes to Colin Sylvia:

The reason why most are more harsh on Sylvia than the other players, is because he has a bigger chunk of the salary allowance than others. So obviously if he is only performing the same, he'll be first to go, or will have to play for far less money.

Pay for how you play. It's the only way it works.

People need to let go of the fantasy he can be a star. But he is already a very serviceable player.

Last year, he came back from a broken back in pre season and after the bye, went on to average 23 disposals and a goal a game, and we know he uses it well. Hardly the dud he gets painted as.

The issue with Sylvia is he should not be a "serviceable" player he should be a star. Joel Mc will never be star and thats ok - he has limitations. Sylvia has more talent in his little finger than Nathan Jones has - yet Nathan Jones performs to the best of his ability week in and week out. I can accept that we will have players of varying talent on our list - what we should not accept is players not performing consistently to the level of talent that they have.

For those of us oldies - I want bucketfuls of Laurie Fowlers on our list. He had a very small splash of talent but played week in and week out to the very very very best of his ability.

We will be a successful side when we have the majority of our players consistently playing the best they can play.

The reason why most are more harsh on Sylvia than the other players, is because he has a bigger chunk of the salary allowance than others. So obviously if he is only performing the same, he'll be first to go, or will have to play for far less money.

Pay for how you play. It's the only way it works.

That's not the reason I have become numb to him.

You gotta pay somebody.

I have moved past the point of being harsh but when I was it was because he promised so much with his talent but has continual false dawns that make his lack of professionalism so galling.

about what JL?

About Sylvia being an unrestricted free agent OD.

I was being facetious.

We have nothing to worry about, in this regard.

(Whether Colin stays or goes)

About Sylvia being an unrestricted free agent OD.

I was being facetious.

We have nothing to worry about, in this regard.

(Whether Colin stays or goes)

Ok I think I understand.

I believe in Colin.

I believe in Colin.

So do I Nasher it is just in the degree

I believe he will continue to be an average player with the occasional good game.

I believe in him if he's interested in playing for us on a reasonable salary. No interest if he extorts us out of a fortune on the half chance that he'll have one or two top shelf seasons.

I believe in Colin.

is that a real statement or a jab at whoever that was (I forget) who had 'I believe in Tom' as his signature for ages until the pr-ck cleared off as tipped by E.McGuire months earlier? Great example in 'believing' in these blokes

I believe in Colin

Firth

(apologies to rpfc lol)

Edited March 22, 201312 yr by SloonieMcFloonieloone

to those concerned..

Believe what ?

After giving it some thought, I actually think FA can benefit clubs like ours if we do it smartly. Sure, we may lose some players but we can also pick up quality older players as a stop gap for a couple of years which could really help our competitiveness until our young stars are ready.

If we can go out and get ourselves a couple of good older mids who may be chasing a little extra coin in their twilight we can start to see improvements in our midfield. More wins will equal more members which we badly need.

I like this but it needs a fair amount of expertise on the part of our recruiting people in first, recognising the player we want and second, convincing him to throw in his lot with the club. I know Tim Harrington did well back in October/November under tough conditions to secure players from different backgrounds and different age levels but this is a challenge that that starts now. To get quality players ahead of the rest of the competition, you need to start early and be decisive in what you're doing.

As for Colin, I would like to see him settled in a position where he can contribute the most to the team.

is that a real statement or a jab at whoever that was (I forget) who had 'I believe in Tom' as his signature for ages until the pr-ck cleared off as tipped by E.McGuire months earlier? Great example in 'believing' in these blokes

I was taking the pee a bit. I'm actually completely numb to Sylvia these days, I jumped off the rollercoaster ages ago. It wouldn't surprise me if he played out of his skin this year and then buggered off, but my gut feeling is that he will stay.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sylvia-looks-to-be-prime-mover-20130322-2glfg.html

He misses brent moloney and is an unrestricted free agent..

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sylvia-looks-to-be-prime-mover-20130322-2glfg.html

He misses brent moloney and is an unrestricted free agent..

The John [censored] guy must be Caros little office patsy.

"Haven't got ime to undermine the MFC today John, can you trot something out to ensure Sylvia leaves Melbourne by years end, I'm busy trying to destroy some other

careers in footy today.I've got so many lies to tell about other people, I just can't keep up."

"Sure Caro-I'll just scour Demonland for my facts and churn out an ad for Sylvias manager so he gets an offer he can't refuse."

"Thanks John"

"Anything for you Caro".

Would prefer to keep him and hopefully he doesn't break balls over the contract.

Exactly the type of wildcard you'd love to take into a GF, could easily see him winning a Norm Smith (if he ever gets there).

Would prefer to keep him and hopefully he doesn't break balls over the contract.

Exactly the type of wildcard you'd love to take into a GF, could easily see him winning a Norm Smith (if he ever gets there).

I completely agree - he is exactly that type of player. But I've reached the point where I'd rather take a punt on someone who might contribute week in week out to getting us into a grand final.

Edited March 24, 201312 yr by Goodvibes

Mao Tse Tung around 80 years ago when introducing his game plan for a communist China said win over those who can be won over easily and work on those holding the middle ground. I think col is one in the middle ground and hopefully we can keep him! He is handy, good body and at the very least a usually competitive player! At the end of the day he could be what wins us a grand final. He won't be leaving for more money that's for sure as we will have a bit of quid freed up and could front end him a decent offer.

However he did also say shoot those with an immunity to change which Neeldy did with Moloney, Martin, Morton, Gysberts so it could also be on the cards with col. Although from all reports his defensive side to his game and his team orientated play has improved.

I'm hoping a big year for col and a big statement by signing on with the dees