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  On 20/02/2013 at 02:24, P_Man said:

Remind me again why Caro gets paid more than Emma..

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dees-winners-well-know-in-about-2015-20130219-2epmj.html

A very reasonable analysis.

I imagine The Age to be a bit like Oz, with the wicked witch and the good witch exchanging pleasantries by the water cooler.

Amazing! Analysis in a newspaper when reporting about footy! What next - balance?

An excellent article and i just wish there was more of it (analysis that is).

CW comes in for her fair share of criticism (most of which being justified!) but i have to say "robbo' is just as bad in terms of being a gossip monger. Wouldn't know analysis if it bit him on the nose. Case in point his woeful article in today's Hun

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      On 20/02/2013 at 02:41, binman said:

    Amazing! Analysis in a newspaper when reporting about footy! What next - balance?

    An excellent article and i just wish there was more of it (analysis that is).

    CW comes in for her fair share of criticism (most of which being justified!) but i have to say "robbo' is just as bad in terms of being a gossip monger. Wouldn't know analysis if it bit him on the nose. Case in point his woeful article in today's Hun

    I can't bring myself to hate Robbo, even when he's taking a swipe at the club.

    The key difference between Robbo and Caro is one has a genuine love of the game and wants to see what is best for It. The other is a vindictive, nasty individual, who uses her own personal grudges as motivation for her "journalism".

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      On 20/02/2013 at 01:25, Ben-Hur said:

    You say he wasn't the "main" offender, but he's clearly "an" offender.

    When I combine his less than satisfactory recruiting efforts I feel aggrieved.

    Prendergast was so upset with tanking he resigned and went to.........Carlton...

    Hangon ,that's what Brock did......

    The thot plickens.....

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    Amazing really - all the footy gossip hacks, led by CW, trumpeted that the board, CS, CC and DB were going to be hit with 3 separate charges. It was stated as fact by several of them.

    What happens? Only CC and DB charged and not with one of the 3 mooted charges. Indeed an entirely new charge that not one journo had even got close to suggesting would be laid.

    Hopeless, just hopeless. Of course the Robbos, Ralphys and CWs will say that they were just going on the info provided by their 'sources' and that it was all a 'movable feast'. What rot.

    This is the problem with gossip journalist, its all based on whispers form people with their own agendas an when the info tuns out to be completely untrue the journos don't take any responsibilty, they just blame their sources.

    Hopeless, just hopeless.

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      On 19/02/2013 at 13:28, stuie said:

    I'm actually more worried about this new investigation than the one just finished.

    "Demetriou defended his late withdrawal from Tuesday's public announcement saying it had been McLachlan's investigation, not his.

    He said the evidence and findings had been put before an independent Queen's Counsel who had agreed the investigation had no sufficient evidence against any other officials or board members."

    Hopefully this is true & accurate.

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      On 20/02/2013 at 04:40, GM11 said:

    "Demetriou defended his late withdrawal from Tuesday's public announcement saying it had been McLachlan's investigation, not his.

    He said the evidence and findings had been put before an independent Queen's Counsel who had agreed the investigation had no sufficient evidence against any other officials or board members."

    Hopefully this is true & accurate.

    I happen to know there was a small army of Melbourne supporting lawyers ready to go, pro bono, and as souped up on indignation as we are.

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      On 20/02/2013 at 03:32, binman said:

    Amazing really - all the footy gossip hacks, led by CW, trumpeted that the board, CS, CC and DB were going to be hit with 3 separate charges. It was stated as fact by several of them.

    What happens? Only CC and DB charged and not with one of the 3 mooted charges. Indeed an entirely new charge that not one journo had even got close to suggesting would be laid.

    Hopeless, just hopeless. Of course the Robbos, Ralphys and CWs will say that they were just going on the info provided by their 'sources' and that it was all a 'movable feast'. What rot.

    This is the problem with gossip journalist, its all based on whispers form people with their own agendas an when the info tuns out to be completely untrue the journos don't take any responsibilty, they just blame their sources.

    Hopeless, just hopeless.

    CW actually stated in her 'pathetic and disgusting' piece that "CC and CS are finished"

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      On 20/02/2013 at 05:01, rpfc said:

    I happen to know there was a small army of Melbourne supporting lawyers ready to go, pro bono, and as souped up on indignation as we are.

    Hello.

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      On 20/02/2013 at 06:17, H_T said:

    CW actually stated in her 'pathetic and disgusting' piece that "CC and CS are finished"

    Where are you Grant Thomas when we need you?

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      On 20/02/2013 at 06:29, Redleg said:

    Where are you Grant Thomas when we need you?

    I'm hoping he is strapped to the exhaust of CWs car.

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      On 20/02/2013 at 00:56, Spirit of the Demon said:

    Of the four rats, it's not Prendergast who's the main offender.

    On top of that people outside the four are behind this so don't blame Prendergast just because you think he was a less than competent recruiter.

    Do we presume then it's Flack?

    ("Jack Watts will/won't be a star" will suffice for yes/no)

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      On 20/02/2013 at 06:52, longsuffering said:

    Undoubtedly the Club will know now and it will only be a matter of time before the whispers will start. Patience.

    Surely its on the 800 page report, If not what the F else is in there???

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    Wouldn't suprise me if that 800 page document has been shredded completely now. It has information people will wish to wipe...

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:20, why you little said:

    Wouldn't suprise me if that 800 page document has been shredded completely now. It has information people will wish to wipe...

    I'm sure it's been asked before: is it or will it become publicly available?

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:35, cfe said:

    I'm sure it's been asked before: is that or will it become publicly available?

    not if it's shredded it won't!!
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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:40, binman said:

    It is now, it's been changed.

    I stand corrected.

    Seems to me that "tanking", in the context of coaches, means either:

    1. Deliberately trying to lose a game; or

    2. Deliberately not trying as hard as you could ("your utmost") to win a game.

    A very subtle difference.

    The AFL decided that "tanking" means (1) and that was not present at MFC, but that certain people in MFC were guilty of (2).

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:23, cfe said:

    To be fair, the actual headline to CW's article is

    Demons cleared, guilty, fined

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demons-cleared-guilty-fined-20130219-2epm0.html

    I doubt she is responsible for truncating it on the website.

    It has been changed, notice the date on the article is today's date, yet the original headline story was published yesterday.

    The only thing truncated IS her responsibility.

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    I wonder if Caro does write her own headlines... a lot of that sort of thing is done by sub-editors. She has enough pull that she probably does, though, I suppose.

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:54, cfe said:

    I wonder if Caro does write her own headlines... a lot of that sort of thing is done by sub-editors. She has enough pull that she probably does, though, I suppose.

    I have a strong feeling she originally wrote the original "Dees guilty" one before a sub-editor did his job some time later...

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:38, why you little said:

    not if it's shredded it won't!!

    If I was DB or CC I'd be pumping it through photocopier, not the shredder!

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      On 20/02/2013 at 11:54, cfe said:

    I wonder if Caro does write her own headlines... a lot of that sort of thing is done by sub-editors. She has enough pull that she probably does, though, I suppose.

    I doubt it - but they're obviously having some fun and i assume the deliberately antagonistic style is all a part of the new age (and i don't mean Aquarius) - a once proud paper reduced to trolling.

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    After footy training tonight I was having the customary rehydration period and shooting the sh!t with the boys.

    Happy to say that the general consensus is that we got screwed and the AFL has been under some really ordinary leadership.

    The everyday footy fan is behind us. No question about that.

    Ed: spelling... Over hydrated.

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