THE WILSON FILE - the arrogance at the heart of the innuendo

[Dr. Gonzo 24,266]

And the proof is?

The links to the various newspaper articles in the thread as well as the none-too-subtle inferences made by some posters.

And Caro left a game between 17 and 18th on the ladder? So what. She does not do match write ups and probably attend the pre match. She did pay tribute on Footy Classified twice on the turnout of MFC supporters to such a game given everything the club has been through.

Others have said they have seen her leaving prior to matches as well - you would think if she actually enjoyed football she would stick around and watch the matches, not just turn up to do her pre-game muckraking and [censored]-stirring and then run off before the matches even start. Whether she praised the supporters for turning up or not is irrelevant (one thing I will say though is that at least she stood up for the club when that moron Tony Shaw was saying we should be playing our home games at Punt Road).

[Grapeviney 9,784]

Others have said they have seen her leaving prior to matches as well - you would think if she actually enjoyed football she would stick around and watch the matches, not just turn up to do her pre-game muckraking and [censored]-stirring and then run off before the matches even start. Whether she praised the supporters for turning up or not is irrelevant (one thing I will say though is that at least she stood up for the club when that moron Tony Shaw was saying we should be playing our home games at Punt Road).

I wouldn't put too much store in the fact that she (sometimes) leaves games after finishing her radio commitments. The 24/7 nature of media, and of footy, may well mean that when she leaves the 'G she goes to the offices of the Age to write for the next day's paper. If you're not writing match reports, but have to spend half the day on the phone (whether it be muck-raking or finding legitimate stories), you'd probably be more inclined to do so away from a roomful of your competitors in the MCG press box.

* ducks for cover *

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

The links to the various newspaper articles in the thread as well as the none-too-subtle inferences made by some posters.

You've named an individual without firm evidence and the inferences of faceless men hiding behind internet covers. Bravo to you.

Others have said they have seen her leaving prior to matches as well - you would think if she actually enjoyed football she would stick around and watch the matches, not just turn up to do her pre-game muckraking and [censored]-stirring and then run off before the matches even start. Whether she praised the supporters for turning up or not is irrelevant (one thing I will say though is that at least she stood up for the club when that moron Tony Shaw was saying we should be playing our home games at Punt Road).

She probably attended the pre matches and was possibly heading to the Brisbane game at Etihad later that day. Its not her job to do match reports. And in their industry they probably have Foxtel and they tape the game for all its excitement.

I wouldn't put too much store in the fact that she (sometimes) leaves games after finishing her radio commitments. The 24/7 nature of media, and of footy, may well mean that when she leaves the 'G she goes to the offices of the Age to write for the next day's paper. If you're not writing match reports, but have to spend half the day on the phone (whether it be muck-raking or finding legitimate stories), you'd probably be more inclined to do so away from a roomful of your competitors in the MCG press box.

* ducks for cover *

Too true and too brave for saying it.

[bluey 1,117]

Maybe she has a notebook computer.

[Gorgoroth 13,016]

Rhino, do you have a connection or know Caroline Wilson in any way?

You seem to always defend her, gave me a warning a long me ago for calling her a few things.

I've wondered ever since.

[mjt 640]

Rhino, do you have a connection or know Caroline Wilson in any way?

You seem to always defend her, gave me a warning a long me ago for calling her a few things.

I've wondered ever since.

He defends her because the rest dont, he rolls that way, Rhinos here for an argument, the best thing about it now is he cant delete your posts or ban you for things he dont agree with, the best thing to do is not respond to his posts, hes simply not worth the time of day.

[Whispering_Jack 30,572]

If anyone's interested in the Mifsud/Neeld controversy there was an interesting discussion on it in one of the tanking threads around mid January which contains some interesting links both by and about Caroline Wilson. Fascinating to read and even more fascinating to think that Caro had the whole story well before Grant Thomas wrote about it in his blog. The reason given as to why she didn't publish was because she didn't have sufficient corroboration. She later backed Mifsud to the hilt even after he offered his apology to Davey. The fact that the parties reached a mediated agreement put an end to any detailed investigation as to the source of the story but there are some clues in the articles written about the affair.

Very interesting stuff and a pointer to how informants can sometimes damage reputations in a very devious manner. Certainly, neither Melbourne nor Mark Neeld deserved that treatment.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Rhino, do you have a connection or know Caroline Wilson in any way?

You seem to always defend her, gave me a warning a long me ago for calling her a few things.

I've wondered ever since.

isn't it 'Fan', thats an avid follower of Kero, or was that 'Baghdad Bob'? & now 'Rhino' sees her good side. can't be the junk, in her trunk?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Rhino, do you have a connection or know Caroline Wilson in any way?

You seem to always defend her, gave me a warning a long me ago for calling her a few things.

I've wondered ever since.

No. But I find it amusing that posters want to rubbish her on the "facts" when these posters have precious little to go on.

In truth I have not participated in the village lynchmob antics that have been fostered here.

And some of the sexist attacks on this site on Wilson whether you agree with her or not have been disgraceful.

[The Third Eye 269]

No. But I find it amusing that posters want to rubbish her on the "facts" when these posters have precious little to go on.

In truth I have not participated in the village lynchmob antics that have been fostered here.

And some of the sexist attacks on this site on Wilson whether you agree with her or not have been disgraceful.

Not even the many clear errors and omissions of fact that seem to have tainted her work of late and have been demonstrated in this thread?

Do yourself a favour and don't watch Footy Classified tomorrow night. It should be a humbling experience for muckrakers and their apologists.

[Tony Tea 2,809]

Not even the many clear errors and omissions of fact that seem to have tainted her work of late and have been demonstrated in this thread?

Do yourself a favour and don't watch Footy Classified tomorrow night. It should be a humbling experience for muckrakers and their apologists.

You're kidding yourself if you reckon Caro will dine out on humble pie tomorrow night. She will maintain there is still an investigation at Melbourne; that questions still to be asked & answered since she as shirty the Demons refused to answer questions last week; and keep slamming Melbourne for being badly run. And since Garry is hopeless at prosecuting an argument without getting emotional and/or sidetracked, he will fail to nail any Caro inconsistencies. Hutchy may pipe in with some smart-alec snipes. Lloydy will, well, try to look insightful.

[The Third Eye 269]

Talking about an apology she owes Brayshaw and North.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Rhino, do you have a connection or know Caroline Wilson in any way?

You seem to always defend her, gave me a warning a long me ago for calling her a few things.

I've wondered ever since.

It's probably his sister.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

No. But I find it amusing that posters want to rubbish her on the "facts" when these posters have precious little to go on.

In truth I have not participated in the village lynchmob antics that have been fostered here.

And some of the sexist attacks on this site on Wilson whether you agree with her or not have been disgraceful.

So if there are a number of people that arrive at the same conclusion, albeit independently, and don't like the way she attacks our club, it's really a lynch mob?

[PJ_12345 1,098]

You're kidding yourself if you reckon Caro will dine out on humble pie tomorrow night. She will maintain there is still an investigation at Melbourne; that questions still to be asked & answered since she as shirty the Demons refused to answer questions last week; and keep slamming Melbourne for being badly run. And since Garry is hopeless at prosecuting an argument without getting emotional and/or sidetracked, he will fail to nail any Caro inconsistencies. Hutchy may pipe in with some smart-alec snipes. Lloydy will, well, try to look insightful.

She has already apologised

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/caroline-wilson-apologises-to-north-melbournes-director-of-medical-services/20130424-2iezr.html

and she will again tomorrow - or probably just refer to this apology

[Whispering_Jack 30,572]

She has already apologised

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/caroline-wilson-apologises-to-north-melbournes-director-of-medical-services/20130424-2iezr.html

and she will again tomorrow - or probably just refer to this apology

Whatever ... it should make riveting television for the minions and will no doubt be like 95% of what we see on that programme - contrived.

Q & A and Lateline for me.

[Whispering_Jack 30,572]

Whatever ... it should make riveting television for the minions and will no doubt be like 95% of what we see on that programme - contrived.

Q & A and Lateline for me.

* where only 85% is contrived ...

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

So if there are a number of people that arrive at the same conclusion, albeit independently, and don't like the way she attacks our club, it's really a lynch mob?

Nobody likes the way she attacks the club (but we are not alone as some would think) but I have already addressed the absurdity of some of the attacks..

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Not even the many clear errors and omissions of fact that seem to have tainted her work of late and have been demonstrated in this thread?

Do yourself a favour and don't watch Footy Classified tomorrow night. It should be a humbling experience for muckrakers and their apologists.

Could there be more toothless show that Footy Classified?

A bit like SEN radio on TV. Full of headlines but embarrassingly light on the fizz.

I'll tape it this week and fast forward to the ads, There will be more information in them.

You're kidding yourself if you reckon Caro will dine out on humble pie tomorrow night. She will maintain there is still an investigation at Melbourne; that questions still to be asked & answered since she as shirty the Demons refused to answer questions last week; and keep slamming Melbourne for being badly run. And since Garry is hopeless at prosecuting an argument without getting emotional and/or sidetracked, he will fail to nail any Caro inconsistencies. Hutchy may pipe in with some smart-alec snipes. Lloydy will, well, try to look insightful.

Gary Lyon is so hopelessly compromised over his involvement at the Club from the backroom to the rancid coaching appointment process. His performances have been really limp and his descent into emotive cheap shot rather intelligent discussion is a real let down. His flaky explanation of the coaching appointment was full of holes and they did not touch him.

Lloyd is also terribly and horribly compromised over Essendon and wears his colours on his sleeve. He is unable to contribute anything meaningful.

And Hutchy.....FMD is just hopeless. Unable to listen and think without jumbling more than 4 words in his head. Lightweight.

[old55 23,687]

If anyone's interested in the Mifsud/Neeld controversy there was an interesting discussion on it in one of the tanking threads around mid January which contains some interesting links both by and about Caroline Wilson. Fascinating to read and even more fascinating to think that Caro had the whole story well before Grant Thomas wrote about it in his blog. The reason given as to why she didn't publish was because she didn't have sufficient corroboration. She later backed Mifsud to the hilt even after he offered his apology to Davey. The fact that the parties reached a mediated agreement put an end to any detailed investigation as to the source of the story but there are some clues in the articles written about the affair.

Very interesting stuff and a pointer to how informants can sometimes damage reputations in a very devious manner. Certainly, neither Melbourne nor Mark Neeld deserved that treatment.

Got a link?

[rpfc 28,726]

No. But I find it amusing that posters want to rubbish her on the "facts" when these posters have precious little to go on.

In truth I have not participated in the village lynchmob antics that have been fostered here.

And some of the sexist attacks on this site on Wilson whether you agree with her or not have been disgraceful.

Firstly, those 'rubbish facts' are a two-way street are they not? I can tell you there was no code named meeting to discuss tanking - even though she wrote that 'fact.' Threats and 'ashen faced Schwab' were thrown out into the ether by this woman and we ask for more from journalists who hold so much sway?

If you stopped for a moment and not try to just explain away criticisms as 'mob mentality' and 'group think' you would come to the same conclusions as most of us.

She had a terrible 2012 that affected your club in an extremely negative fashion - she didn't get stories correct and she never corrected herself.

Certainly wasn't a lynch mob...

PS. F___ing Lynch Mob? This is the kind of reference you would arc up about from any poor d!ck that mentioned it. No-one is dragging her over to a tree and stringing her up and hanging her for the colour of her skin, RR.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Firstly, those 'rubbish facts' are a two-way street are they not? I can tell you there was no code named meeting to discuss tanking - even though she wrote that 'fact.' Threats and 'ashen faced Schwab' were thrown out into the ether by this woman and we ask for more from journalists who hold so much sway?

If you stopped for a moment and not try to just explain away criticisms as 'mob mentality' and 'group think' you would come to the same conclusions as most of us.

She had a terrible 2012 that affected your club in an extremely negative fashion - she didn't get stories correct and she never corrected herself.

Certainly wasn't a lynch mob...

PS. F___ing Lynch Mob? This is the kind of reference you would arc up about from any poor d!ck that mentioned it. No-one is dragging her over to a tree and stringing her up and hanging her for the colour of her skin, RR.

Your emotive chest beating only serves to prove my point further. You certainly dont have any access to the sources of her information. you seek to deride. As for Schwab he oversaw and was responsible for Club activities that lead to the Board accepting the 3rd largest fine in AFL history and suspension of two men under his control. He is responsible for his own downfall. he would have realised that when the AFL released its report to the club on tanking. Elements at the AFL and the MFC leaked extensively during the investigation and Wilson and other journalists reported those leaks.

You dont like what she writes then bully. Go wave your torch elsewhere.

[rumpole 522]

And where is your evidence that the AFL and MFC leaked information.

Specifics, please.

[Whispering_Jack 30,572]

Got a link?

If I had the link (or the time to look it up myself) I would have given it but if you're interested and have more time than I do, all you need is to search whatever tanking thread we had going at the time and you should find it. IIRC the discussion on the MIfsud story ends in a very telling way.

[old55 23,687]

If I had the link (or the time to look it up myself) I would have given it but if you're interested and have more time than I do, all you need is to search whatever tanking thread we had going at the time and you should find it. IIRC the discussion on the MIfsud story ends in a very telling way.

No I don't have time, my request was a vain hope for substance in place of more mystifying innuendo.