Do we hear whenever Caro goes out to dinner? Who she eats with? (Probably alone).

I would put far more credence on her utterances were Schwab, her nemesis, not involved.

i have noticed though that she is often quite ashen faced. i wonder what that indicates?

i have noticed though that she is often quite ashen faced. i wonder what that indicates?

sullen and ashen faced?

i have noticed though that she is often quite ashen faced. i wonder what that indicates?

It wouldn't be constipation, that's for sure!

B-H monitors conspiracy theories

The AFL didn't have to act on McLean's comments .

They did. It was as much the reaction to McLean's comments as the comments themselves. They couldn't turn a blind eye.

And what's been done is done.

They did. It was as much the reaction to McLean's comments as the comments themselves. They couldn't turn a blind eye.

And what's been done is done.

What if Vlad had of been around ?

He would taken the heat and knocked it on the head - just like he'd done a number of times before .

Anderson got ahead of himself - and now he's gone . Where is he now ? Why would you give up a plush job at the biggest sporting organisation in the Country ? On good coin I might add . He was with the AFL for 9 years - why would they suddenly move him on unless they had a decent reason ?

Here is an article from the 'ABC' upon his resignation . Could have posted the photo but it's in the article - he doesn't look very happy and he also said this ...

"I've got a few ideas, there hasn't been a great amount of time for looking and pursuing other opportunities.

The bit from your post that I've highlighted is correct - but as well as that, it's not over - not by a longshot

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The bit I've highlighted is correct - but as well as that, it's not over - not by a longshot

Who said it was ?

What if Vlad had of been around ?

He would taken the heat and knocked it on the head - just like he'd done a number of times before .

Anderson got ahead of himself - and now he's gone .

The bit I've highlighted is correct - but as well as that, it's not over - not by a longshot

wasting your time Macca, as i said before Vlad could have stopped all this with one phone call even after he landed back at HQ.

But has not done that.

He has allowed it to roll without a word.

can we please get back to fighting the powers of evil and not ourselves

and no this is not a victim statement

man the barricades.....vive les démons

wasting your time Macca, as i said before Vlad could have stopped all this with one phone call even after he landed back at HQ.

But has not done that.

He has allowed it to roll without a word.

Thats because its gained legs.

Thats because its gained legs.

In a way youre right. The horse had bolted. This was a gamble AA had made imho. i.e that once out it would have to continue. AA thought he had AD in a catch 22.

AA thought wrong. Im not sure actually that AA did much quality thinking ever.

The 'Net' is killing off newspapers . And the only way they can survive is by having a more 'Shock element' to their stories .

A comparison of that could be the UK - but the 'Shock element' is more to do with competition from the many other publications .

Publication decreases because of online reading - up goes the trashy stories ...

Yes,,, but why do people stop buying the papers all those years back?

Because people started not believing the rubbish, & also the favoritism shown to some.

On top of this you had to pay for a paper that was increasingly filled with 60% adds on a page of newsprint... 40% story & 30% rubbish.

and pay for it & waste your time searching thru it for something worthy..... spoils the coffee.

"The bit from your post that I've highlighted is correct - but as well as that, it's not over - not by a longshot"

Who said it was ?

Well, quite a few have ruled a line through us . Many have in the media and in fact, a certain percentage of people on this site have done the same . The term 'Ruling a line through us' is open to interpretation .

I wasn't being personal .

Edit : I've added a bit more to my post #1131 if you want to go back and peruse it.

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wasting your time Macca, as i said before Vlad could have stopped all this with one phone call even after he landed back at HQ.

But has not done that.

He has allowed it to roll without a word.

The fact that he hasn't said much is quite telling, don't you think ? Normally he's a bit of a head kicker (or he's been known for that 'On occasions')

Thats because its gained legs.

only because the CEO remained silent.

One phone call would have killed it off.

The fact that he hasn't said much is quite telling, don't you think ? Normally he's a bit of a head kicker (or he's been known for that 'On occasions')

oh yes this was not HIS doing but by remaining quiet and letting it roll he will be remembered for it long after Angry Anderson has faded from memory.

Vlad would have followed all this from London.

He is not that silly.

Yes,,, but why do people stop buying the papers all those years back?

Because people started not believing the rubbish, & also the favoritism shown to some.

On top of this you had to pay for a paper that was increasingly filled with 60% adds on a page of newsprint... 40% story & 30% rubbish.

and pay for it & waste your time searching thru it for something worthy..... spoils the coffee.

plus you forgot to say that the price of quality toilet paper dropped dramatically further reducing the usefulness of newsprint

only because the CEO remained silent.

One phone call would have killed it off.

Tjhe AFL imo wanted to put an end to the 'Priority Pick' & "List Managtement" sagas.... its hurting the games integrity...

A leadership is planned & a while back AA scuttles the Priority Pick. following this sometime down the track, the NRL chase McLauchlan. an AFL handover is imminent, & IMO the leader & his sergeant are to step aside, but first to leave the place ship shape for the incumbent to start a fresh page.

Head honcho goes on holiday as his sergeant at arms clears the table top & wears any shrapnel.

AFL launches Demons tanking claim probe

• July 31, 2012

The AFL has launched an investigation into claims made by former Melbourne midfielder Brock McLean that the Demons tanked in 2009.

McLean had admitted winning was not a priority for the Demons during that controversial season under former coach Dean Bailey.

Acting AFL chief executive officer Gill McLachlan said league operations manager Adrian Anderson would interview McLean, who is now at Carlton.

"The AFL has resolved that this matter will be addressed by the general manager of football operations, Adrian Anderson," McLachlan said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-launches-demons-tanking-claim-probe-20120731-23bwz.html#ixzz2HFi82Y3n

IMO this is a directive from the commission prior to the changeover of ceo leadership... we were seen as soft targets & the collateral damage.

they hadn't bargained for Jimmas legacy, & the fightback of a few sleeping Demons...

oh yes this was not HIS doing but by remaining quiet and letting it roll he will be remembered for it long after Angry Anderson has faded from memory.

Vlad would have followed all this from London.

He is not that silly.

You may be right and of course Vlad isn't silly - he's street smart and should never be underestimated . My take on it is that Vlad's behavior right now is somewhat different to how he normally behaves . Is it because he's been somewhat entrapped in this whole affair and feels that any sort of comment might in fact incriminate himself ?

He was forever shouting from the rooftops that "There's no such thing as tanking" . My gut feel is that he's laying low . A compromised solution to this whole saga may probably eventuate . Might even be done in a quiet way .

Edited January 7, 201313 yr by Macca

You're may be right and of course Vlad isn't silly - he's street smart and should never be underestimated . My take on it is that Vlad's behavior is somewhat different to how he normally behaves . Is it because he's been somewhat entrapped in this whole affair and feels that any sort of comment might in fact incriminate himself ?

He was forever shouting from the rooftops that "There's no such thing as tanking" . My gut feel is that he's laying low . A compromised solution to this whole saga may probably eventuate . Might even be done in a quiet way .

And the Kewpie Doll goes to........

I can't see the media letting this go in a quiet way.......The AFL are damned if they do and damned if they don't......But it's got to finish up soon......

I can't see the media letting this go in a quiet way.......The AFL are damned if they do and damned if they don't......But it's got to finish up soon......

Yes please!

I can't see the media letting this go in a quiet way.......The AFL are damned if they do and damned if they don't......But it's got to finish up soon......

Yes, you're probably right about the media, Bossdog . But if we get out of all this in reasonable shape then who cares what the media says or does (after a hopefully, positive result for the club) Once it's over with the AFL , it's over .

You can't get tried for the same offence - or can you, in today's AFL ?

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No the media will hang on to this till the very last drop of blood has been sucked.

eg. Todays article in the HUN just keeps the same story ticking over...idling & warm until the vultures return from the Christmas Feast

Some will be returning this week others once the Tennis is finished...

The one thing the media do not know anything about is what the MFC reply will be...no leaks there.

The Rats were obviously old employees or fabricated discussions Wilson added some colour too....the pack then followed.

I think that's why I used the word 'also'.

Believing the world is out to get us, that Melbourne as a club is being treated differently to another club in the same situation, that the AFL wants to 'cut us from the pack', that the media hold us particularly in contempt, and disparaging individuals who hold a contrary view without rational argument ... they're all elements of paranoia and/or 'group think'.

We've got to get over this rubbish before we can believe we're the equal of other clubs. There's a heap of good things going on at Melbourne now, and I don't really want to be part of a pessimism derived from four years ago.

Good post Maurie agree totally, to easy to always blame someone else for problems