Supermercado 2,806 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 IS this photo reliable ? More reliable than this one
BarnDee 287 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 what the go with all the hate on here for a mfc player , not his fault he was such a high pick and dint deliver , most prob tried hard and failed , so far , if he goes he goes , and good luck in the future , how bout ya leave it that ! fair dinkum there are some real pricks on here at times ,
Brian Wilson 331 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Does anyone else want to see Morton have an uninterrupted run at a Misson preseason? He is just 22.
dee-luded 2,959 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I think his best football could be elsewhere and maybe WCE see a role for him like his brother mitch as Sydney We might not know More space for him to work in on the big expanses of the WA ground.
Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Does anyone else want to see Morton have an uninterrupted run at a Misson preseason? He is just 22. The problem is that his recent shoulder surgery will prevent him joining in full training until close to Christmas. His upper body will still be tiny next season and we'd be saying the same thing in 12 months.
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I can confirm you have posted one grainy, inconclusive photo with a perfectly made up claim that will maximise attention. Well done, troll. Mission accomplished. Time will tell...only passing it on for the benefit of Demonland. It is well and truly out there that Cale may be traded so I don't understand your pessimistic view. Like I said take it as you will. I'm only passing on what has been sent to me.. Relax To add to this, I'm not fussed if he stays or if he goes.. He has underperformed since his arrival for various reasons, however if he can get a solid run at a per season then I think he will show some signs.. This is not a personal attack on Cale from me whatsoever but rather an opinion based on running a business. After all this is exactly what it is. Nice guys aren't always successful, successful guys are.
dee-luded 2,959 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 what the go with all the hate on here for a mfc player , not his fault he was such a high pick and dint deliver , most prob tried hard and failed , so far , if he goes he goes , and good luck in the future , how bout ya leave it that ! fair dinkum there are some real pricks on here at times , I think you may find it's Not hate for player, but a hatred for our players failing to develop & continually under-performing, yet still accepting they're contracts in full each year.
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I think you may find it's Not hate for player, but a hatred for our players failing to develop & continually under-performing, yet still accepting they're contracts in full each year. Bingo - we have a winner Johhny
Grimseyisgod 378 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Does anyone else want to see Morton have an uninterrupted run at a Misson preseason? He is just 22. as much as i think Morton is a piece of showerheisen. Morton has a good amount of talent and when at his best which we have all seen before, he is a really good player. maybe give him another year or 2. see how he pans out. than again, if he left i really wouldnt been upset. maybe if he actually puts on some muscle and starts playing regularly, i might change my decision. either way im content. also, does anyone actually think he could endure a full Misson preseason?
The Big Ticket 94 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 OK, so my comment from earlier was deemed inappropriate. I'll be more constructive this time. I don't have much hope for Cale to turn it around. Confidence is obviously the issue and once that's gone on the field, it's hard to get back. I loved his first two seasons. His games against Collingwood and Footscray in '09 were brilliant, racking up + 35 disposals in both games. He's a capable player but if he wants to go somewhere else I'm not really fussed anymore. I'll just cry a bit over how we could've had Danger instead.
Mono 460 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 ........... also, does anyone actually think he could endure a full Misson preseason? No worries I would think.....has a big tank. What he doesn't have is an instinctive (any?) like for the contest. QED
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Confidence is the word here - he gets bagged for the running away from the port ruckman internally to MFC and externally at other clubs.. Wasn't his greatest moment. We pile on the pressure for those who back out of a contest, this guy ran away like a kid in a school yard. Again I'm not having a go....but it's all perception and the perception in the greater football public is that he is easily intimidated.
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 If Cale had a shoulder reco recently, how would he be doing a fitness test at WCE? Wouldn't his arm be in a sling of some sort? I thought that shoulders had to be kept still for quite some time after a reco. I recall this being mentioned when Jurrah had his done. Although the fella in the photo does look incredibly daggy, which I imagine Cale to be.
Pipefitter 2,225 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I don't think neeld cares where the player was picked in the draft, if you don't fit into the plan, you're out.
Carrot Top 947 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I think you may find it's Not hate for player, but a hatred for our players failing to develop & continually under-performing, yet still accepting they're contracts in full each year. Hmmm. I hate the culture of near enough is good enough that the club lived and breathed since Northey left. We just ruin players. Our list of what ifs, what could have beens and 'geez he looked alright in his first year or two' players would make a strong man weep. How can you hate players that haven't been taught properly and who are surrounded by other blokes that have learnt the same bad habits?
Carrot Top 947 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Confidence is the word here - he gets bagged for the running away from the port ruckman internally to MFC and externally at other clubs.. Wasn't his greatest moment. We pile on the pressure for those who back out of a contest, this guy ran away like a kid in a school yard. Again I'm not having a go....but it's all perception and the perception in the greater football public is that he is easily intimidated. Not your greatest moment either. I guess you don't actually watch many games.
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 If Cale had a shoulder reco recently, how would he be doing a fitness test at WCE? Wouldn't his arm be in a sling of some sort? I thought that shoulders had to be kept still for quite some time after a reco. I recall this being mentioned when Jurrah had his done. Although the fella in the photo does look incredibly daggy, which I imagine Cale to be. Good point...was it just a clean? If so, no it wouldn't be in a sling. Also can we confirm anywhere about if he went under?
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Good point...was it just a clean? If so, no it wouldn't be in a sling. Also can we confirm anywhere about if he went under? http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=143860
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=143860 The article says "He will undergo surgery on the shoulder this week and is expected to be ready for the start of pre-season." Dated August. When does our preseason start? I don't think he would be wearing a sling..trying to remember seeing him at the best and fairest.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Confidence is the word here - he gets bagged for the running away from the port ruckman internally to MFC and externally at other clubs.. Wasn't his greatest moment. We pile on the pressure for those who back out of a contest, this guy ran away like a kid in a school yard. Again I'm not having a go....but it's all perception and the perception in the greater football public is that he is easily intimidated. That would be when he had a go at a significantly bigger opponent and then ran for the ball when it came back into his immediate vicinity? Yes, we all know that the media love to show a tiny bit of that footage that looks bad when taken out of context, but I think we Melbourne supporters can afford to look past the media bias to what actually happened, don't you?
Demon Forever 219 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 That would be when he had a go at a significantly bigger opponent and then ran for the ball when it came back into his immediate vicinity? Yes, we all know that the media love to show a tiny bit of that footage that looks bad when taken out of context, but I think we Melbourne supporters can afford to look past the media bias to what actually happened, don't you? Agreed. We can, but can our opposition?
jumbo returns 6,744 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Confidence is the word here - he gets bagged for the running away from the port ruckman internally to MFC and externally at other clubs.. Wasn't his greatest moment. We pile on the pressure for those who back out of a contest, this guy ran away like a kid in a school yard. Again I'm not having a go....but it's all perception and the perception in the greater football public is that he is easily intimidated. That clash had its ambiguities - some say that Morton was chasing the ball. Lade's intent was elsewhere. Against the Aints this year, he tackled hard, bringing McEvoy down 2 or 3 times. He has the ability to run and carry, but opposition clubs work out his limitations pretty quickly. I think he'll go.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I think the big reason for Cale to leave is because too much has happened at this club for him to thrive here. How can he become a part of the team after two or three disastrous years, the constant barrage of That Footage, his teammates' lack of trust in him on the field and whatever other issues there have been? I honestly think he still has what it takes to be a quality player, but I don't think he can do it with us. Therefore it would be worthwhile to take what is offered for him, let him have a fresh start somewhere else and wish him well. The problem with this is of course, that if I'm right we will be criticised from all corners for letting such a talent go so cheaply when if we'd only stuck with him he could have been doing this for us. Nobody is going to think about the circumstances mentioned above. So while it could be seen as a win/win, in the long run I think we will come out poorly either way.
Chook in Perth 2,109 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Right - enough of the fun and games. Background: I went to the TAB to collect my Saturday winnings and watch the Geelong Cup. On the way back I walked past Cale on the phone. After crossing the road I decided to take a quick pic and put it on Twitter speculating why he was in Subi. Of course lots of people took interest and it snowballed. Now, a few things. - yes it's Cale. Sorry I didn't take the zoom lens to the TAB. I'd like to think I've around Melbourne forums long enough to be trusted. I don't bullsh.t - the MFC twitter crew thought it would be a good social experiment to see how far this would go. We haven't been let down. The 2 threads on Big Footy are, interesting, though I don't like being called a troll. - finally Demon Forever - mate on holiday hey champ? You [censored]
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