State of Play

[skills32 229]

Well Scullandcrossbones won't be asking for a trade.

His dad is now unemployable.

Might be the last one standing.

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Both GC and GWS have to reduce their lists gradually to get back into line with the other 16 AFL clubs, so they will lose some players. I would imagine one or two here and there may leave over time, but in the main they will hold onto their quality players. There won't be a mass walkout as some indicate.

[spirit of norm smith 13,177]

Apparently with Cats getting Josh Caddy, the "need" or appetitie for Jordie Gysberts has been terminated.

Also situation with Tom Gillies may settle the Jared Rivers future. If JR goes to Cats, I think Tom Gillies will walk out on the Cats. He has spent 5 years now in the shadow of Scarlett and played some good footy when given the chance.

[dee-luded 2,958]

its hard not to 'wander a bit morally' on the Gold Coast to be honest

Thats true, first hand experience, after a 21Hr, nonstop drive.

memories are made of these.

[spirit of norm smith 13,177]

1. Free agent signing - Shannon Byrnes
   
2. #26 father son selection : Jack Viney ... what a sensation
   
3. MFC give picks #3 & 13 to GWS <> GWS give MD2 Jesse Hogan & pick 20 & Dom Barry
   
4. Brent Moloney joins Lions as a Free Agent
   Rumours & negotiations:
   OUT -
   

• Jared Rivers - free agent to the Cats. GFC offer 3 yrs @$350k. JR has toured Cattery ...but Dees still hopeful
  
• Jordie Gysberts - likely may stay a Demon in 2013 now.
  
• Stef Martin - has been put on the market despite having 1 yr on contract left. Whisper is now he will be involved in the Saints?Pies package deal for Ray & Dawes.
  

IN-

• Chris Dawes from pies - Has chosen the Demons (above Blues, Dogs and Lions)
  
• Cam Pedersen from kangas - reports say he will join MFC in 2013 (awaiting final pick options to be sorted once Melbourne knows FA comp available).
  
• Farren Ray from saints - under contract and Saints say he is wanted. Mgr and player are looking at ops elsewhere. MFC very keen and may acquire as part of a 3-way pacakge with Pies/Saints.
  
• Ben Warren from kangas - question asked. I hope its a full stop as he is VFL quality only.
  
• Matt Thomas from Power - discussion raised only
  
• Scott Gumbleton from bombers - Mark Neeld has a 30 minute coffee with Gumbleton. Mail has it Bombers offer is 1 yr, Freo offer is 3 yrs. I hope we pass on the injury proned, inaccurately kicking fwd.
  

[demonchris 162]

Okay, so far we have had a major boost to our playing stocks this Free agency/trade and draft period. I'm just going to lay down who/what we have picked up because im slowly getting excited for the upcoming footy season (something i probably haven't said in a while...)

INS-

Free Agency-

Shannon Byrnes (geel)

Draft-

Jack Viney (pick 26) F/S

Draft pick 4* (potentially Wines/Toumpas)

Trade-

Jesse Hogan (MD pick 2)

Dom Barry (NT zone selection)

Chris Dawes (coll)

Draft pick 58*

OUTS-

Free Agency-

Brent Moloney (RFA) - (Bris)

Trade-

Draft pick 3

Draft pick 13

Draft pick 20

Draft pick 45

Now i personally feel this is a MAJOR plus to Mark Neeld and his team. We do only have 2 picks inside 50 in this draft, yes. BUT we will get not ONE but TWO top 10 talents! The joys of haveing a coach with a frimly imprinted game plan and an idea of what players are needed to run it

[Damo 3,007]

The Tom-toms seem to have quietened. My take is that the AFL have told the clubs on the QT what picks they will get for all FA, and they have agreed to keep it quiet for now.

I reckon Cam Pederson and Farren Ray are already ours either for compensation or for trades that are linked to compensation. So they need to not release info.

Dont know, just reckon. But if players were told Im sure some twit would tweet.

[jackaub 1,402]

The Tom-toms seem to have quietened. My take is that the AFL have told the clubs on the QT what picks they will get for all FA, and they have agreed to keep it quiet for now.

I reckon Cam Pederson and Farren Ray are already ours either for compensation or for trades that are linked to compensation. So they need to not release info.

Dont know, just reckon. But if players were told Im sure some twit would tweet.

Agree with your logic I heard last Friday from a very reliable source that Ray Dawes and Pederson were ours but we had to look like we were trading hard.

Go figure

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

Okay, so far we have had a major boost to our playing stocks this Free agency/trade and draft period. I'm just going to lay down who/what we have picked up because im slowly getting excited for the upcoming footy season (something i probably haven't said in a while...)

INS-

Free Agency-

Shannon Byrnes (geel)

Draft-

Jack Viney (pick 26) F/S

Draft pick 4* (potentially Wines/Toumpas)

Trade-

Jesse Hogan (MD pick 2)

Dom Barry (NT zone selection)

Chris Dawes (coll)

Draft pick 58*

OUTS-

Free Agency-

Brent Moloney (RFA) - (Bris)

Trade-

Draft pick 3

Draft pick 13

Draft pick 20

Draft pick 45

Now i personally feel this is a MAJOR plus to Mark Neeld and his team. We do only have 2 picks inside 50 in this draft, yes. BUT we will get not ONE but TWO top 10 talents! The joys of haveing a coach with a frimly imprinted game plan and an idea of what players are needed to run it

3 if you include Hogan. I'm really happy with what Neeld & Co have done in the past couple of weeks. Only up from here.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,499]

The Tom-toms seem to have quietened. My take is that the AFL have told the clubs on the QT what picks they will get for all FA, and they have agreed to keep it quiet for now.

I reckon Cam Pederson and Farren Ray are already ours either for compensation or for trades that are linked to compensation. So they need to not release info.

Dont know, just reckon. But if players were told Im sure some twit would tweet.

Not a chance. It is an impossibility to expect all 18 clubs and their employees to keep a secret. Any secret.

[spirit of norm smith 13,177]

1. Free agent signing - Shannon Byrnes

2. #26 father son selection : Jack Viney ... what a sensation

3. MFC give picks #3 & 13 to GWS

MFC gets Jesse Hogan (MD2) & pick 20 & Dom Barry

4. Brent Moloney - Free agent to the Lions

5. MFC give picks 20 & 45

MFC gets Chris Dawes (Pies) & pick 58

As at 17/10/12 (likely) draft picks 4, 58, 64, PSD #3.

Rumours & negotiations:

OUT -

• Jared Rivers - free agent to the Cats. GFC offer 3 yrs @$350k. JR has toured Cattery ...answer pending
  
• Jordie Gysberts - Cats were looking but now have Caddy so all quiet.
  
• Stef Martin - seems like no one is after a flexible ruckman/fwd/backman (!!!). GWS surely would be tempted. Maybe MFC could get a pick 44 or 62 (3rd or 4th round).
  

IN-

• Darryle Pearce - early mail was he was getting a 4yr deal off MFC. Signed with Freo as free agent
  
• Josh Caddy - MFC was a very interested party. Caddy said "I'm not interested in MFC". Signed with Cats
  
• Sharrod Wellingham - MFC was looking at a Dawes/Wellingham package. Wellingham said thanks but No, I'm going home to WA. West Coast signed.
  
• Cam Pedersen from kangas - reports say MFC still very keen & awaiting FA compo pick.
  
• Farren Ray from saints - under contract and Saints say he is wanted. MFC was pursuing but will stay a Saint IMO.
  
• Ben Warren from kangas - question asked. I hope its a full stop as he is VFL quality only.
  
• Matt Thomas from Power - discussion raised only
  
• Scott Gumbleton from bombers - Mark Neeld has a 30 minute coffee with Gumbleton. Mail has it Bombers offer is 1 yr, Freo offer is 3 yrs. I hope we pass on the injury proned, inaccurately kicking fwd.
  

[old55 21,421]

Tim Harrington has been at pains in all the interviews I've heard to point out that we need to look at the overall result of our action in FA, trading and drafting ...

In for Out = Result

Hogan for ND3 = looks par

Draftee for 4 = looks par

Viney for 13 = looks value

Dawes for 26 = looks par

Barry + 58 for 45 = looks par

Byrnes for Moloney = looks par

It's too easy to take for granted that we got Viney in the 2nd round, secured a very highly rated key forward (THE hardest position to fill) in the mini-draft and attracted a mature KPF and a premiership small forward to our "untouchable club".

I reckon we're going very well and we're not done yet.

[DemonWA 3,498]

Anyone else think our 'state of play' in the grand scheme of things is even better than it seems due to Davey, Gawn and Taggert likely to play much bigger roles for us next year (reported they are over their injuries). Taggert especially could add a lot.

[red and blue forever 781]

from what i can see some unconfirmed stuff here but hopefully most of it will work out.

IN.

Viney

Hogan

Barry

Burns

pick 4 wines.

Dawes

1 more pick in draft(required.)

pick 3 PSD

Potential Melb trades to come in

Farran ray

Pederson (three way trade involving martin to brisbane)

toy?

= 10 players in (not including hogan)

OUT.(Definate)

Moloney.

Jurrah.

Green.

Rivers.

(rumored delist)

Cook.

Sheahan

(rumored trade)

Martin

Morton??? seems to be a hoax

(trade/delist from.)

Dunn.

Bate.

Joel mac

Bennell

Jetta

Lawrence

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