Grimes could have said "I'm not going to insult your intelligence with yet more empty promises. What I can say is that we've let the supporters down this year and we're going to make amends by training as hard as we can over the summer and as captain I'm going to make it my business to make sure that every player in the club buys into the coaches' plans for 2013 and beyond".

If he'd said that he's have won some respect instead of looking like the Cameron Bruce of his generation.

In the same breath as saying he won't make promises you have Grimes making two.

Please Jack I know you have to be positive and try and lift the spirits of us all after the worst season in 30 years

But Stay cool till round 10 when we have won 5 then shoot from the hip.

Sadly for me it is "heard it all before"

Actions are what I want and that won't happen for 5 months

If he doesn't get 30 touches this weekend we should ship him out the door ASAP.

Honestly - what do people expect the club captain to say on the club website!? If you don't want to hear it - don't read it. Our club still needs to function to continue to grow our membership numbers etc.

FWIW, I'm sure the West Coasts etc. come out with this kind of stuff as well.

If he doesn't get 30 touches this weekend we should ship him out the door ASAP.

Honestly - what do people expect the club captain to say on the club website!?

"Sorry".

In the same breath as saying he won't make promises you have Grimes making two.

I said not empty promises. There's nothing wrong with the captain showing some leadership. He just has to choose his words more carefully.

Don't give me words.

irony overload

If he doesn't get 30 touches this weekend we should ship him out the door ASAP.

Honestly - what do people expect the club captain to say on the club website!?

As someone else said where he is going for holidays

That he has a new dog

That it was great to play a whole season

That Mark Neeld is a great coach

That his mother makes great apple pies.

That his brother loves playing at Richmond

That he is looking forward to welcoming aboard a new lot of draftees

Anything else

Some of you are just posturing and it makes my eyes roll.

You don't have to get excited by what he says, but don't give this "shut up and show me" attitude.

I know self-righteousness and it is just that.

As someone else said where he is going for holidays

That he has a new dog

That it was great to play a whole season

That Mark Neeld is a great coach

That his mother makes great apple pies.

That his brother loves playing at Richmond

That he is looking forward to welcoming aboard a new lot of draftees

Anything else

Yep - any of those articles would go down great on 'Land...

If he doesn't get 30 touches this weekend we should ship him out the door ASAP.

are you referring to "getting touches" on the end of season trip, 'cos he sure ain't going to get any in the footy field?

are you referring to "getting touches" on the end of season trip, 'cos he sure ain't going to get any in the footy field?

Oh.

Give me possessions and give me goals.

Don't give me words.

It's the offseason genius...

"Sorry".

Dang.

He could've made up for our whole season with one word - if only he'd have known!

I've heard some of these phrases since the 80s and I know that many of you have heard them long before me.

However, there were a couple of very interesting points to the piece.

1. 'Grimes said he had never trained as hard as he did during 2012, with sessions as tough as games. The demanding sessions hardened the body and the mind and tested the resolve of some players.' This would indicate what many of us have suspected: that the preseason for 2013 began in late 2011. Time will tell if this is a good move.

2. 'It's not for everyone and lot of guys won't be there for the whole ride.' From JG's perspective, there is a clear distinction between those who want to play for MN and those who don't. It stands to reason that next year's group will consist of a lot more of the former.

"Sorry".

What has JG got to be sorry for? I know that this is tempting a witty response but the question has to be asked.

What has JG got to be sorry for? I know that this is tempting a witty response but the question has to be asked.

Sorry me and the boys put you all through th footballing equivalent of Dante's seven circles of hell?

It's the offseason genius...

Thanks Raymond Babbitt.

Edited September 6, 201212 yr by Range Rover

Cameron Bruce still thinks we can make the finals.

Bruce reckons 'we're flying' at the moment...

Grimes's goal for the year is to go ONE SINGLE GAME without an out on the full.

SPORTSBET odds are pretty high....

I have also heard my fair share of post-season "can't wait for preseason" but this one from Grimes has a different slant on it. He is beinbg full-face hinest about people not buying in to training - something he simply can't do publicly mid season. He remonds me a bit of Newman from the Tiges. He is a bit unassuming but says it quietly but with strength. His leadership could be a huge part of future improvement.

If some are completely honest it wouldn't matter WTF Grimes said, as they'd be saying "talk is cheap", or "we've heard it all before".

So if you agree that that's true, which only a liar could disagree with, then STFU. You don't have to pass comment on every comment or article that comes out of the club, which is obviously for the consumption of the average supporter

More Jack Grimes' in this draft please.

Doesn't he have a brother that is of draft age? And there are other brothers younger still to come.

Can anyone confirm this?

You don't have to pass comment on every comment or article that comes out of the club, which is obviously for the consumption of the average supporter

as opposed to the holier-than-thou types who frequent this place ..

MOE=moccies on everyone