I cant even recall Rodgers

The first and last things I saw of him was 1) dropping a chest mark in a NAB Cup game, and 2) at qtr time getting hints from Neitz on how to take a chest mark...

We are where we are right now because our 2000-2004 draftees are just nowhere.

Edited August 21, 201212 yr by rpfc

I cant even recall Rodgers

That makes two of us BB

Must have been wonderful!

There was no U18 in front of my pick. That's AA in the AFL.

Fair enough

That makes two of us BB

Must have been wonderful!

And we've had SO many great talents of late it probably understandable we forgot this one !!

12. Cook - Ripper kid. Very polite and well spoken. Has a nice country feel to his manner. He has suffered from some migraines this year and it is thought that is because he gets very nervous before a game. The longer the season went the more I tended to drop off him simply because he wasn't having any impact on games. I thought he should have been dominating. He's not overly intense and not overly aggressive. I have a few question marks on his mental toughness.

Oh dear

Oh dear

werent the words I was thinking, but the sentiment is the same. Geez we can pickem !!

2001 has no contenders for worst MFC drafting effort...

9. MFC: Luke Molan

13. Nick Dal Santo

16. Rick Ladson

17. James Kelly

19. Jason Gram

21. Matt Maguire

22. Mark Seaby

24. Steve Johnson

25. MFC: Steven Armstrong

26. MFC: Aaron Rogers

29. Lewis Roberts-Thompson

32. Campbell Brown

33. David Rodan

36. Sam Mitchell

37. Leigh Montagna

47. Andrew Welsh

55. MFC: Brad Miller

56. Paul Medhurst

58. Dane Swan

60. Adam Schneider

71. Brian Lake

Besides Miller that reads a pretty depressing list as a Melbourne supporter. I always had high hopes Armstrong, mainly because of the jumper number he wore and the blonde locks similar to a past player that donned the guernsey before him. He wasn't a quarter of the player that bloke was, played in a premiership though...lucky for him.

Oh dear

Nothing like deleting half a sentence to make a point!!!

Nothing like deleting half a sentence to make a point!!!

True, but I think we all know he's a good kick and can take a mark.

And he's certainly polite. I was near the I/C bench down at Frankston a few weeks back and he's the only player I heard thank a trainer when handed a water bottle. But two years on the concerns we've had about intensity, aggression, pace and lack of involvement have never been more vivid. Big key forwards need mongrel and an appetite for the contest and it's very hard to instill that in a player that doesn't naturally have it.

He and Watts would spend an hour trying to get out of a lift ... you, no you, ...

Edited August 21, 201212 yr by Ben-Hur

yes we did get one superstar out of that draft

Yep, I know your distaste for the man.

I was more talking about some value out of him. Ie 130 odd games, besides Armstrong's 40 odd games for us the rest didn't give a yelp whether it be to injuries or just not being good enough.

True, but I think we all know he's a good kick and can take a mark.

And he's certainly polite. I was near the I/C bench down at Frankston a few weeks back and he's the only player I heard thank a trainer when handed a water bottle. But two years on the concerns we've had about intensity, aggression, pace and lack of involvement have never been more vivid. Big key forwards need mongrel and an appetite for the contest and it's very hard to instill that in a player that doesn't naturally have it.

He and Watts would spend an hour trying to get out of a lift ... you, no you, ...

This is my problem with Cook - you can afford to have one of he or Watts on the list but not both. Watts is clearly the better player so I genuinely think we should see if we can get a late first round draft pick back for Cook and cut our losses (though even that may be asking too much).

This is my problem with Cook - you can afford to have one of he or Watts on the list but not both. Watts is clearly the better player so I genuinely think we should see if we can get a late first round draft pick back for Cook and cut our losses (though even that may be asking too much).

I think your last few works are on the money Dr.

Doubt you would get a third round pick.

I would think he has next to no currency at present.

I think your last few works are on the money Dr.

Doubt you would get a third round pick.

I would think he has next to no currency at present.

I don't know about that - he is after still a highly rated junior who is a tall KPF who take time to come on - the problem is we can't afford to have him on our list. He doesn't suit us but he could fit in nicely somewhere else.

I don't know about that - he is after still a highly rated junior who is a tall KPF who take time to come on - the problem is we can't afford to have him on our list. He doesn't suit us but he could fit in nicely somewhere else.

If we could get a round two pick Dr. I would take it in a heart beat.

Nice guys don't win flags

They sing in Choirs

werent the words I was thinking, but the sentiment is the same. Geez we can pickem !!

Polite and well spoken....! Great.

This is my problem with Cook - you can afford to have one of he or Watts on the list but not both. Watts is clearly the better player so I genuinely think we should see if we can get a late first round draft pick back for Cook and cut our losses (though even that may be asking too much).

Two U18 AA CHF's and what have we got - Sheez!

Two U18 AA CHF's and what have we got - Sheez!

At least one of them is turning into a decent player DC.

I suppose we should be thankful for small mercies.

It's the attitude thing with Cook that bothers me and it's one of the big issues holding him back. In an early interview when he first arrived at the club he was saying how he wanted to first establish himself at Casey and learn the game.

I don't think Jack Viney will be saying that next year, any player must push for senior selection the minute they walk into the club, I mean look at young Tynan. Seeing him at his first training session I thought he was a few years off, skinny underdeveloped kid, but he just kept on pushing himself up by working his a... off, even strengthened up a bit in the short time he has been with us. He played first game and it's only injury that's kept him from another shot at it.

Greta post, thanks for the info.

Thats section the most hilarious paragraph ive ever read on Demonland

Fitzpatrick???????? Not a fan. He has very good speed and agility for his size but his foot skills are shocking and he is lazy. His marking is hit and miss.

He is getting over Chronic Fatigue as a 15yr old but he has been playing on that for the past 3 years. I haven't spoke to him but my bosses went to Sth Africa with him as part of the AIS U18 tour a few years back and they said he was the biggest whinger and complainer they had every heard. They also said he is one of the most arrogant kids they have ever met. They wouldn't have drafted him with 100 picks.

I think at pick #50 James Craig from SA or Josh Donaldson from WA would have been a better option

I don't know about that - he is after still a highly rated junior who is a tall KPF who take time to come on - the problem is we can't afford to have him on our list. He doesn't suit us but he could fit in nicely somewhere else.

Maybe nows thet ime to shop him around before his foibles become all to obvious to any potential suitors !!

At least one of them is turning into a decent player DC.

I suppose we should be thankful for small mercies.

yes, but not as CHF, nor likely

I still can't believe we drafted a second mirror image type CHF. What were they thinking?

If we could get a round two pick Dr. I would take it in a heart beat.

Nice guys don't win flags

They sing in Choirs

Maybe the issue isn't with the Choir boys, but rather the Bishop Choir Master & his recruiters? They have obviously targeted these types for some reason?

'scratches head again', #uckknows Why!

yes, but not as CHF, nor likely

I still can't believe we drafted a second mirror image type CHF. What were they thinking?

No. But may be able to turn into a fine CHBack...

Maybe the issue isn't with the Choir boys, but rather the Bishop Choir Master & his recruiters? They have obviously targeted these types for some reason?

'scratches head again', #uckknows Why!

very good dee-luded

Like it lots

It is amazing that they took two similar types two years apart.

I wonder do recruiters ever check out the parents of these skinny kids.

Quite often skinny kids turn into skinny adults that no amount of weights and force feeding will change

very good dee-luded

Like it lots

It is amazing that they took two similar types two years apart.

I wonder do recruiters ever check out the parents of these skinny kids.

Quite often skinny kids turn into skinny adults that no amount of weights and force feeding will change

Again for me it comes back to the culture of the place.

If we want to eradicate this Soft approach to club & recruits, we may need to continue to look outside of our own clubs former players to acquire the hardened edge.

Just as we did with Checker Hughes.

As we did with Slug, & wasn't he terribly disliked by the MCC members.

As we've done with Neeld & co...

But we have to start recruiting strong headed kids with some aggro to match their skills.

I really hope this Taylor bloke has some cohonas & I'd love to have Matty Rendell with us.