I heard all that talk in 2008. It was unsuccessful. I prefer the good old hard work theory myself.

We have Viney stitched up for next year. I would prefer a few more wins this year so maybe a few footy jumpers are sold over summer.

Funny, I reemmber you saying something like the good picks from the losses are your christmas present.. You didn't seem to prefer the good old hard work theory back then lol!

I would suggest Viney in the second round is a lot more beneficial to us than whatever a win over GC would bring.

Yeah but GWS have $cully who's ripping it up with 9 possessions to three quarter time, so if he continues with that form GWS will win easy.

So far he has had 303 disposals plus his 9 make 312.

If he is earning a Million this year. My quick math says that's $3,205 a possession.

If Scully was still with us would he be our biggest drafting mistake at number 1? I think yes.

cheers Sheedy

This scenario will never happen.

Having said that, I couldn't care less.

2013 is where all the action will unfold.

Who cares if we win meaningless games vs GC AND GWS.. it won't improve our culture one bit... imagine if we didn't have to use a high pick on Viney.. this draft would set us up for years to come if we nail the picks:) or even blow one and nail the rest: haha i am happy to lose sorry to be honest here

Funny, I reemmber you saying something like the good picks from the losses are your christmas present.. You didn't seem to prefer the good old hard work theory back then lol!

I would suggest Viney in the second round is a lot more beneficial to us than whatever a win over GC would bring.

Yes i did say that Sloonie, because i knew what the club was doing. If you are going to do something, do it right.

But it didn't work. So i prefer option B.

Is that ok??

Who cares if we win meaningless games vs GC AND GWS.. it won't improve our culture one bit... imagine if we didn't have to use a high pick on Viney.. this draft would set us up for years to come if we nail the picks:) or even blow one and nail the rest: haha i am happy to lose sorry to be honest here

Demon fanatic indeed.

Simple question: Is Port tanking!!

Port will be the first team to lose to both new expansion teams.

GWS will win - 1st leg in.

Shaw saying that Primus is a very 'honest' man....wtf does that mean?

Yes i did say that Sloonie, because i knew what the club was doing. If you are going to do something, do it right.

But it didn't work. So i prefer option B.

Is that ok??

It didn't work because we chose poorly.

Option A is a guarantee that Viney is second round, whilst first two picks are top 5 prospects. At this stage of the season I prefer option A.

Shaw saying that Primus is a very 'honest' man....wtf does that mean?

It means Port are tanking!!

just to clarify... what picks do we get if we come last.... 1, 2 (viney at like 20ish) and 2 more inside 20???

Shaw saying that Primus is a very 'honest' man....wtf does that mean?

Tony Shaw wouldn't know what that means.

Sheedy just proved his point, he is smiling in the box because he is justified.

Sheedy is sending a sign to the Melbourne Football Club right at this moment.

This is a great day in the life of Kevin Sheedy.

Who cares if we win meaningless games vs GC AND GWS.. it won't improve our culture one bit... imagine if we didn't have to use a high pick on Viney.. this draft would set us up for years to come if we nail the picks:) or even blow one and nail the rest: haha i am happy to lose sorry to be honest here

Great, so when so many people like myself take their kids to the footy tomorrow and we roll over again I then have to plead with my own children to stick with the club. Even my kids ask why should I barrack for a team that always loses? I couldn't care less about top draft picks I care about winning.

It didn't work because we chose poorly.

Option A is a guarantee that Viney is second round, whilst first two picks are top 5 prospects. At this stage of the season I prefer option A.

Fine. I don't.

Great, so when so many people like myself take their kids to the footy tomorrow and we roll over again I then have to plead with my own children to stick with the club. Even my kids ask why should I barrack for a team that always loses? I couldn't care less about top draft picks I care about winning.

Well said Cowboy. Kids don't know anything about draft picks.

They want to wear a footy jumper to school.

Great, so when so many people like myself take their kids to the footy tomorrow and we roll over again I then have to plead with my own children to stick with the club. Even my kids ask why should I barrack for a team that always loses? I couldn't care less about top draft picks I care about winning.

Agree 100% CFH

What is it people don't understand.

This club is hanging by a thread when it comes to member support.

Winning is what makes great clubs

Well said Cowboy. Kids don't know anything about draft picks.

They want to wear a footy jumper to school.

Agree 100% CFH

What is it people don't understand.

This club is hanging by a thread when it comes to member support.

Winning is what makes great clubs

Winning = players wanting to play for us, players wanting to be traded to us, members signing up with us, sponsors signing on with us and kids going to school in an MFC jumper. It would also really help my tipping at work.

It's what we all want.... at least I hope you all want it as much as I do.

Who cares if we win meaningless games vs GC AND GWS.. it won't improve our culture one bit... imagine if we didn't have to use a high pick on Viney.. this draft would set us up for years to come if we nail the picks:) or even blow one and nail the rest: haha i am happy to lose sorry to be honest here

No one will care if we win. The question is 'who will care if we lose.'

I think it will be the final straw for a lot of people.

Simple question: Is Port tanking!!

Not if you saw their Coach in the rooms with 3.5 minutes left to play. He looks shattered. His job is on the line tonight.

Edited August 4, 201213 yr by Redleg

I would prefer to see my team win the next 5 games and make a statement! I don't give a [censored] about high draft picks! I would rather use a high pick on Viney then lose to expansion clubs that we should easily beat. IMO Viney is worth pick 1 because he will bring something to the club that it is lacking in spades....MONGREL!! Having a crack 100% of the time week in and week out! You tell me the last time the MFC or any AFL club has hd a 17 yr old has gone up against a 200 game premiership player and made him look 2nd rate? End Rant.

No one will care if we win. The question is 'who will care if we lose.'

I think it will be the final straw for a lot of people.

So not coming last will be ok in the minds of the lot of people you speak about? If I was one of those fickle types that is looking for a final straw, I'd be long gone already.

Success will cement members, finishing 16th is far from success obviously.

Being able to do whatever you want with this draft, as well as Viney in the 2nd round would set us up for years, Mr Fickle and his kids will be back wearing shiny new jumpers with picks 1 and 2 on the back in no time.

We're in a good spot draft wise anyway, but I fail to see how anyone wouldn't want to be in the BEST spot.