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Cloke and Collingwood - to part or not to part?

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I can't see Cloke leaving. A respected player at a rock solid club whose premiership window is wide open. The only motivation could be financial, and I don't see the difference between $850,000/yr and $1million/yr as being much of an incentive.

I think the situation with Ablett and Scully was different. For Ablett, in addition to the $, GC presented the opportunity to prove himself in a weak team and lead them to success. For Scully, it was $6million for an unproven player with a chronic knee injury at a dysfunctional club.

However, I would still pursue him. A forward of his quality is more scarce than premiership quality midfielders. We are more likely to be able to draft/trade/develop the midfield we need than we are a player of Cloke's ability.

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      On 09/06/2012 at 14:05, speed demon said:

    I can't see Cloke leaving. A respected player at a rock solid club whose premiership window is wide open. The only motivation could be financial, and I don't see the difference between $850,000/yr and $1million/yr as being much of an incentive.

    It's not so much the cash amount as the number of years he can be guaranteed (4 or 5).

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    If he leaves collingwood his dad should be shot

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    Was told from a reliable sauce tonight who is very good friends with a collingwood player, Melbourne have offered cloke a 7 year deal worth 1 million a year, I would assume his 1st year would be heavily front ended maybe 1.5 to 2 mill

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      On 13/06/2012 at 18:26, wattsup said:

    Was told from a reliable sauce tonight who is very good friends with a collingwood player, Melbourne have offered cloke a 7 year deal worth 1 million a year, I would assume his 1st year would be heavily front ended maybe 1.5 to 2 mill

    If that were true then Harrington should be shot

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      On 13/06/2012 at 18:26, wattsup said:

    Was told from a reliable sauce tonight who is very good friends with a collingwood player, Melbourne have offered cloke a 7 year deal worth 1 million a year, I would assume his 1st year would be heavily front ended maybe 1.5 to 2 mill

    I bloody hope not.

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    Yeah I would rather chase mids, just passing on what I was told I guess if the club is serious they will use all there pics on mids, or they are making this offer so a beams or sidebottom gets pushed out only time will tell

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      On 13/06/2012 at 21:30, wattsup said:

    Yeah I would rather chase mids, just passing on what I was told I guess if the club is serious they will use all there pics on mids, or they are making this offer so a beams or sidebottom gets pushed out only time will tell

    I Bloody hope so!

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    smoke mirrors

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      On 13/06/2012 at 21:30, wattsup said:

    Yeah I would rather chase mids, just passing on what I was told I guess if the club is serious they will use all there pics on mids, or they are making this offer so a beams or sidebottom gets pushed out only time will tell

    I'd also happily take either Wellingham or Goldsack

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      On 13/06/2012 at 21:30, wattsup said:

    Yeah I would rather chase mids, just passing on what I was told I guess if the club is serious they will use all there pics on mids, or they are making this offer so a beams or sidebottom gets pushed out only time will tell

    Now your talking. I'd rather chase Beams &/or Sidebottom if we have to have some Pie.

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      On 14/06/2012 at 00:40, dee-luded said:

    Now your talking. I'd rather chase Beams &/or Sidebottom if we have to have some Pie.

    So would I. Both A graders

    But it will cost us picks/players as well as money

    I don't think we would give up pick 4 so it would have to be pick 12/13(?) plus player(s)

    Or would we use pick 4 (or whatever the no after Viney)?

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    this thread is about Cloke, not collingwood players in general. I dont understand whats with demonland posters suddenly sayin they want every 2nd collingwood player. Cmon fellas, there are 16 other teams to pick from, why only harp on abt how good collingwood players are

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      On 14/06/2012 at 00:52, olisik said:

    this thread is about Cloke, not collingwood players in general. I dont understand whats with demonland posters suddenly sayin they want every 2nd collingwood player. Cmon fellas, there are 16 other teams to pick from, why only harp on abt how good collingwood players are

    I thought the connection could be that we are not really interested in Cloke per se but trying to force Collingwood to pay more for Cloke thus less available to renew contracts with other ooc players e.g. Beams, Sidebottom

    This could be a tactic to get some good midfielders

    Just saying

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      On 09/07/2012 at 21:13, Bring Back Barassi said:

    we either get a monster forward line, or we blow out the filth's salary cap

    brilliant

    And blow out our own salary cap.

    Not so brilliant.

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    Too much money. Plus I hate him.

    We apparently have also given him the option of 6 years. I don't like it.

    No thanks.

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    If were gonna throw stupid money around , throw it at Franklin.

    At least a bloke like him will bring people through the gates .

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      On 09/07/2012 at 20:53, Good Times Grimes said:

    The Dees are offering $5m over 5+ years according to this morning's Age.

    http://www.theage.co...0709-21s1g.html

    No No No No NO No No NO No No No No No No and No..

    Repeat after me. We need:

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    Mids

    This can't be true, Please don't be true. He's not that good, He can't kick and has an elite midfield passing it on a silver platter. He would kick 20goals a year at the Dees.

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    Five years too long.

    Five mill too much.

    I hope we are doing this to game Collingwood and force them to take him for 5 years and 5 mill. Eddie is panicking.

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    His free in a sence that no draft picks need to be lost to bolster the forward line. I honestly would have preferred going for hogan and working with him and i still hope we do.

    Power forwards are a dime a dozen whole there is an abudance of mids out there waiting to be drafted. I like this play by the dees.

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