Cale is our Brent Stanton

Except for the part where Stanton is dominating games this season.

Except for the part where Stanton is dominating games this season.

yes but 3 seasons ago, he was torching the ball and being smashed by Essendon Supporters.

Patience... i could be wrong but lets not hang the 22 year old who has had 3 interrupted preseasons out to dry, just as a decent fitness crew are putting muscle on him

Except for the part where Stanton is dominating games this season.

And how many years does Stanton have on Morton? I'd say more than a few!

Plenty worse than Morton today. He's having a crack, albeit with poor disposal at times. Good 1st qtr when all hell was breaking loose.

Hasn't exactly got too many others pushing him out of the side. Davey? No. Green? No. Bate? FFS no.

Neeld will hopefully persist with him. Only 22 yrs old. Will develop further with a full preseason and another 8kg of Misson muscle.

6 pre-seasons into his career he's still built like Delta Goodrem.

On the other hand ... AFL footy is a hard, tough, bruising, brutal sport.

Therein lyeth the problem. And it 'aint going to change in a hurry.

Fine, keep him, but leave him in Casey until he irons out all the chinks in his game. His turnovers cost us a critical moments. Fundamentally he is soft. Scared of shadows. No one will want him even if we decided to trade him, he is not in our best 22 and that says heaps.

If he is not in our best 22 he would not be getting a game. And he is getting a game so I guess he is in our best.

the run down and shove he gave that forced a point from certain goal was inspiring and will be replayed after the game have no doubt.

the run down and shove he gave that forced a point from certain goal was inspiring and will be replayed after the game have no doubt.

Exactly. That was a brilliant piece of play from a player with more heart to run than most people. There's more than one kind of brave.

Neeld looked like a hater after CM got the ball and copped a whack ,then decided to run on to is non-existent left and ruin our momentum with another turnover .

I'm gong to hate him until he stops doing dumb things.He is too easily put off ,distracted ,forced into error .

Having said that , he did win a few of his own balls today and is getting better in some areas.

I hate that it takes so long for him to get it .

I hate the expression "hater"

I hate Americanisms being brought into our culture

I hate Collingwood

I hate the world after they beat us.

Yep -I'm a hater.

I've been anti letting him get away with soft efforts, & cheap kicks from the kickouts since his first year. I've wanted him dropped to the VFL since in 2009, & to harden him up, & hurry him up. Stop the plodding.

Well I didn't see more than a few snippets, as I was working today, But i saw him with the footy put oj a turn of speed & a fade to avoid the tackler. He had some speed & he showed some urgency. It's not much for me to go on as i didn't see much at all of the game,,, But I can see that he is trying to change, & change is Happening.

He is contracted till 2013, & as he's worth nothing atmo,,, after all this time wanting him gone,,,, I now want to give him next year to show how much he can change & Improve.

I'm gong to hate him until he stops doing dumb things.He is too easily put off ,distracted ,forced into error . I agree !

Having said that , he did win a few of his own balls today and is getting better in some areas. I agree !

I hate that it takes so long for him to get it .

I hate the expression "hater" I agree !

I hate Americanisms being brought into our culture I agree !

I hate Collingwood

I hate the world after they beat us.

Yep -I'm a hater.

6 pre-seasons into his career he's still built like Delta Goodrem. ??? Not quite, but IF he turns into her, we better keep him/her for a water boy?

On the other hand ... AFL footy is a hard, tough, bruising, brutal sport.

Therein lyeth the problem. And it 'aint going to change in a hurry.

Get angry Cale.

And how many years does Stanton have on Morton? I'd say more than a few!

Four.

Not disputing that and understand why the comparison is being made, but Stanton is pushing for AA selection this year. Just keeping things in perspective.

Bet he is still at the club next year.

Sadly contracted. And who would want him in a trade. His brother (Mitch) got a third shot at the Swans and is sinking without trace.

QED

If nothing else, this thread weeds out those who have no idea about what's going on the field and those who are prone to hyperbole.

Morton is a very outside player who fumbles under pressure and has average acceleration and ordinary foot skills. I am amazed how so many see so much potential in him.

Morton is a very outside player who fumbles under pressure and has average acceleration and ordinary foot skills. I am amazed how so many see so much potential in him.

It amazes me that ^ this is all some people see in him.

Open your eyes.

The problem with Morton it we picked him up at #4. if we hadn't this would be a non-issue.

So lets reassess;

He hasn't been a top draft pick, but we have him, if we get rid of him then we gain nothing. Currently he is actually playing well. Yes he does butcher the ball at times, but the reason why we get so frustrated IS because he was pick #4. If we got him at #25/30+ we would be talking about the bargain we got.

He is borderline in our best 22. (i Believe he can cement that spot with another pre-season and confidence)

We must keep him until;

1) he asks to be traded

2) we can get a good deal for him (bearing in mind he WILL improve)

3) he isn't in our best 22

It amazes me that ^ this is all some people see in him.

Open your eyes.

It amazes me that you ^ continue to think that your opinion is all that matters and you're always right.

Open your mind.

The problem with Morton it we picked him up at #4. if we hadn't this would be a non-issue.

So lets reassess;

He hasn't been a top draft pick, but we have him, if we get rid of him then we gain nothing. Currently he is actually playing well. Yes he does butcher the ball at times, but the reason why we get so frustrated IS because he was pick #4. If we got him at #25/30+ we would be talking about the bargain we got.

He is borderline in our best 22. (i Believe he can cement that spot with another pre-season and confidence)

We must keep him until;

1) he asks to be traded

2) we can get a good deal for him (bearing in mind he WILL improve)

3) he isn't in our best 22

NO.

I will not tolerate butchering the ball by any player when there is no pressure....i don't give a flying F&*( what draft pick they were.

It kills the team spirit...we all felt it.

It amazes me that you ^ continue to think that your opinion is all that matters and you're always right.

Open your mind.

It's extraordinary isn't it?

An openness to other's opinions and not assuming everyone who holds one contrary to your own is an idiot. That's something you should have instilled in you well before adulthood.

I'm still glad he's a poster here though.

So many black & white folk here that you could be supporting the Pies.

He has improved this year. That is acknowledged.

He played a very average game today, and deserves a whack.

It doesn't mean we hate him, never believed in him, always wrote him off, yada yada, but he is accountable for his performance, and I, like others here, weren't happy with it. It's called analysis. But please, stuff me in a pigeon hole.

NO.

I will not tolerate butchering the ball by any player when there is no pressure....i don't give a flying F&*( what draft pick they were.

Good luck winning a game with about 6 players on the ground

Morton burnt it a few times today, not on his own in that regard mind you, and yes a couple were horrid skill errors. Just like our best field kick Watts, who gifted Didak a shot at goal. Some of his turnovers come from having no option up the ground or running in support.

He does gut-run though and we need more like him who are prepared to spread, even when the lactic acid feels like its burning through your skin.

Reckon Cale will be ok

It amazes me that you ^ continue to think that your opinion is all that matters and you're always right.

Open your mind.

I'm open to others' opinions as long as they are intelligent and considered.

But generally I am found to be correct.

It's extraordinary isn't it?

An openness to other's opinions and not assuming everyone who holds one contrary to your own is an idiot. That's something you should have instilled in you well before adulthood.

I'm still glad he's a poster here though.

Not an idiot, just incorrect imo.

Edited June 11, 201213 yr by José Mourinho

Ha! I've done my best to change my mind on this guy this year, but he keeps putting up games like today...

Ohhhhh but he's an "elite runner", and "outside player" with "silky skills"..... No. He's not ANYTHING.

See ya Morts.

What frustrates me even more then his (apparent) fear and lack of intensity is the fact that so many pump him up for his "silky skills", which all too often turn out to be "silly kills". As well, the cries "give him time"! He has had already over half the average AFL career in years - how much longer do we wait for a number #4 draft pick to take a game by the balls and FCS win it!??

Edited June 11, 201213 yr by monoccular

I'm open to others' opinions as long as they are intelligent and considered.

But generally I am found to be correct.

You can't be serious.... And if you are, surely you can't be that conceited?

Why come here for discussion then if you're "always right"? Surely you can just sit on the couch in the dark and enjoy your own thoughts.