More excuses.

It doesn't take 10 Kgs to show a desire for the hard contest.

So watts your prognosis for Cale Morton? I don't want to see Jack W go the way of Morton & Bennell.

Cant see Cale making it. Far too soft and poor skills. Just not up to it IMO.

I think we need to adjust our expectations of Jack. He's certainly not a mongrel-hardball get-contested mark type at the moment but that's OK.

The role he played on the weekend suits him as he's got excellent skills and reads the play better than most. Reckon that should be his position for the next year or two until he can beef up a bit more and get some more experience.

You knows, maybe he can turn into a Jobe Watson or Josh Kennedy type one day being tallish midfielders. He's certainly a better player at age 20 than they were.

Among the gloom at the SCG, I thought that despite all the criticism of our players both Jack Watts and Sam Blease provided a warming of the heart.

I encouraged Jack to be tried in the back half - albeit from forum land - sometime ago even before he was sent back to Casey. It's important he feels that he belongs at AFL level, and I thought sending him back would help his intensity and sense for a contest. He has shown against Sydney he can read the play and drop into holes for contested marks or intercepts from reaching the opposition forwards. His kicking to position is exemplary but he needs to maintain that for length of games. He showed a few times by selling the pill he can create time for himself with the ball. Good move by the coach.

Amassing the amount of touches last week down back will give him some confidence. It's a start.

I think we need to adjust our expectations of Jack. He's certainly not a mongrel-hardball get-contested mark type at the moment but that's OK.

The role he played on the weekend suits him as he's got excellent skills and reads the play better than most. Reckon that should be his position for the next year or two until he can beef up a bit more and get some more experience.

You knows, maybe he can turn into a Jobe Watson or Josh Kennedy type one day being tallish midfielders. He's certainly a better player at age 20 than they were.

exactly the point.......if he improves as much as he has in his first 40 games in his next 40 then he will be in the top 20 players in the comp.

More excuses.

It doesn't take 10 Kgs to show a desire for the hard contest.

So watts your prognosis for Cale Morton? I don't want to see Jack W go the way of Morton & Bennell.

Yes it does - and WHEN it does....we'll have another chat about it then.

I think we need to adjust our expectations of Jack. He's certainly not a mongrel-hardball get-contested mark type at the moment but that's OK.

The role he played on the weekend suits him as he's got excellent skills and reads the play better than most. Reckon that should be his position for the next year or two until he can beef up a bit more and get some more experience.

You knows, maybe he can turn into a Jobe Watson or Josh Kennedy type one day being tallish midfielders. He's certainly a better player at age 20 than they were.

Every now and then a unique unpositionable player comes along, like a James Hird type. A player that has the skills and instinct to be given more freedom to roam and use his skills. I believe, given the proper development, we have 2 of these on our list, one is Gysberts and the other is Watts.

Neither player will be your typical hard mid, big forward, or tough backman, but could possibly become such a hard to match up player that they are a massive weapon for us.

This is where the expectations of Watts may have been off, but possibly even below what we will end up getting. Not a big marking forward, but an absolute game changer who will be worth more to us than what we originally hoped for.

Watts has coffees with Malthouse now days. Will be interesting to see how that goes. I know a bloke who is a member of the same golf course as Watts.

The view at the club - if you believe people you trust to know - is that Watts has coped unfair criticism and at times has worn criticism that should have gone to others.

Edited May 26, 201213 yr by Norm Smith's Curse

Melbourne put him up for trade at seasons end or whenever r his contract is up.

He has no passion for the game or contest, looks like he is in slow motion no urgency as well as this he needs to be selfish and go for it, to many times goes for the team option when it is not needed.

Has shown nothing since being on our list.

Why keep him for another two years hoping he will come good , trade him off while he may be worth something.

Otherwise we keep him till he even realises he hasn't got what it takes and is totally worthless.

Before every one starts sprouting rubbish that big guys take longer to develop is aloud of crap,we don't have time.

He seems like a nice guy and I hope he proves me wrong,but He won't.

Posted this in the post match. He needs to spend the rest of the year in the VFL. Prove that he wants to be in the afl. He doesn't look like he wants it.

The worst post i have ever seen full stop.

He was our fifth highest disposals today and generally used the ball well by foot. He does more with it when he gets it in the midfield, rather than the backline; on the back line regularly has no options to kick to. Edit: 23 disposals at 87% Effective Disposal today...

Wasn't our worst today, was among our best last week. Why the hate right now? And is this really anything that couldn't have been added in an existing thread?

Edited May 27, 201213 yr by deanox

As frustrated as you might be, that is completely and utterly ridiculous.

Q: What did one braincell say to the other braincell?

A: "It's lonely in here."

Will bet 10 grand that he will be .

Surely you jest!

I was actually expecting a punch line but it never came.

The worst post i have ever seen full stop.

Why is the worst post ever seen? Any one can write this,explain yourself man

I'd put him "back" in the VFL this week. Monitor the rest of the season. More than likely I'd put him for trade aswell

Don't want to make an outrageous and unjustified call like the poster has here but I'm sorry this is the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen. Has been one of the positives over the last year!

Melbourne put him up for trade at seasons end or whenever r his contract is up.

He has no passion for the game or contest, looks like he is in slow motion no urgency as well as this he needs to be selfish and go for it, to many times goes for the team option when it is not needed.

Has shown nothing since being on our list,.

Why keep him for another two years hoping he will come good , trade him off while he may be worth something.

Otherwise we keep him till he even realises he hasn't got what it takes and is totally worthless.

Before every one starts sprouting rubbish that big guys take longer to develop is aloud of crap,we don't have time.

He seems like a nice guy and I hope he proves me wrong,but He won't.

Ridiculous thread! I think you will be mincing your words.

Q: What did one braincell say to the other braincell?

A: "It's lonely in here."

Thought,thought he had a car,he then woke up and only had a horn

I am such a Watts fan and really want him to make it, but some of his efforts today were... limp is the best word I can think of. He is playing limp footy. But it is getting frustrating. In the last quarter he went back into the play, took a mark and got 50 metres from Betts. This showed good courage and good reading of the play. In the same quarter he chose not to go for a mark about 30 metres out for goal when he had a perfect run at it and would have jumped over the other people pushing and shoving. And that lazy, limp kick out that led to a goal summed up the attitude he displays too often.

He has got every skill, unique peripheral vision, can rack up possessions because of his reading of the play and can run as quick as any other bigger forward but lacks urgency and intensity. This was on full display today. Do we make him learn at AFL level or make him discover these traits in the VFL?

Edited May 27, 201213 yr by Maldonboy38

Shouldn't get seduced by stats when he is playing lose. His intensity and competiveness are unacceptable. How many times he Just coast past a contest. We sure know how to pick em. Another one with all the talent in the world without the drive to reach the levels expected.

Worst thing about the thread is the attention grabbing headline. Then you open it and it's just suggesting we're going to trade him. If you'd had an argument why he'll be out of the league in two years it might be interesting, but as it is it's a Billy No Mates style cry for help.

Trollin... Silly comment, he will get there, and I am liking him at half back. Gives us great use out of the defensive half, his skills and decision making are pretty good. Saw a couple of good tackles but the only time I think he was questionable in the contest was that mark in the forward line where he pulled out, and I think Hampson or someone marked over Howe. Even here you can make the argument that Watts stayed down because no one else was there to crumb - either way he will cop it for that contest I think.

I'll say Jack will be in our top 5 players in 2 years time.

If we put him on the trade table is there any chance we can package a deal with west coast to get Nik nat?