On 03/04/2012 at 06:59, Bonkers said:

The source was a player from within our club. The problem came from within our club & it just so happened that there was no confidentiality between Mifsud & that player as Mifsud then went & blabbed to Grant Thomas.

Given the comment alleges racism from a Club official, what the hell is Mifsud blabbing to the media about?? Who knows its an actual problem and actually true???

Of course it should have been confidential and properly addressed behind closed doors with the Club, the player and the AFL.

  On 03/04/2012 at 07:15, Bonkers said:

Some people are so Naive!

Are you referring personally

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:04, Tassie Devil said:

Mifsud claiming his source lied! Name the source then resign - who cares if it's not accepted.

Mifsud has exercised appalling judgement that has humilated and defamed a senior MFC official and breach his confidence of the player who told (regardless of whether its correct or not). He must have had a Ricky Nixon moment if he believed it was appropriate to pass information like that to the media. Its an absolute stinker. This bloke Mifsud is a snake

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:32, sue said:

Hang on a minute. It is quite possible that the 'rat' told him something which was misinterpreted. For example, maybe Neeld spoke to all the indigenous guys about Jurrah's situation, possibly at their request, and Mifsud misunderstood and 'leaked' what he did. At this stage, who knows, so please let's all calm down.

Very sensible Sue. There have been too many posts that rival Mifsud's lack of judgement. A few need to chill and put down the torches.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:27, Range Rover said:

Worse is that we likely have a player or players, very likely one or more of the indigenous boys, who is (are) prepared to falsely slur the club because of some perceived gripe. After ALL Jimmy Stynes, Schwab and the rest of them have done for him (them).

Treason of the highest order. Find out who it or they were and chuck 'em out of the club now.

Do you have any evidence this is the case?

If not (and I have no doubt you have absolutely none), why slur our own players especially the indigenous players?

  On 03/04/2012 at 06:47, Arsene Wenger said:

My question is: why the hell has Grant Thomas been involved in this rumour-mongering?

OK speculation/conspiracy time;

Thomas knew that Rendell was unfairly maligned and sacked based on some allegations by Mifsud which were not entirely true.

He knows that this guy is spreading further untrue or not quite true rumours and decides to go and put them into print to bring the issue to a head and somewhat vindicate Rendell. He kills two birds with one stone by being able to have a crack at Neeld who for whatever reason he seems to have an issue with as shown in the rest of his column. Neeld and MFC are a particularly easy target after the weekend so he picks his target and lets loose.

EDIT: on further reading it seems Thomas and Mifsud have a relationship going back to St. Kilda days (along with Rendell) so it looks like Thomas really is just an idiot.

3aw are suggestion it is an ex player who is no longer at the club

This club is a movie just waiting to write itself.

" which Mifsud then relayed to Thomas - with whom he worked at St Kilda as an assistant coach - in what he thought was a private conversation about the recent Matt Rendell case."

Not only was he leaking info about Neeld at this meeting, he was STILL leaking about the Rendell case

I don't see how any Club official could work openly and confidentially with this guy in the future

And Vlad knocks back his resignation

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:36, old dee said:

3aw are suggestion it is an ex player who is no longer at the club

That right blame some one who is no longer there. So where did this ex get his info if not lying?

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:38, Jaded said:

This club is a movie just waiting to write itself.

isnt it what....you want the costume job ??

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:34, Robbie57 said:

Do you have any evidence this is the case?

If not (and I have no doubt you have absolutely none), why slur our own players especially the indigenous players?

Believe what you want to believe on this one Robbie. There was no 'evidence' about Scully leaving either.

  On 03/04/2012 at 07:26, east gippsland demon said:

Channell ten reporting that the the source was a senior indigenous player at melbourne . The whole thing is another distraction we dont need . Our bloody season is off the rails all ready .

LOL how many senior indigenous players do we have? Pretty short list.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:34, Robbie57 said:

Do you have any evidence this is the case?

If not (and I have no doubt you have absolutely none), why slur our own players especially the indigenous players?

Robbie don't get me started on this why single anybody or race out they are all MFC footballers no matter colour or creed, singling people out or treating races or cultures differently is in fact racism.

Everything Neeld has done since he walked through the door and the way he has gone about everything has impressed me no end. It will take time but he is exactly what we need. Time for everyone at the club from players to footy department & supporters get behind this guy.

Furthermore in regard to the untruths spoken of Neeldy by Mifsud & Thomas take it all the way & if there is a rat at the club banishing them to Casey is not enough ban them from the club all together. Having said that it is a big IF as I would not put it beyond the realms of Mifsud twisiting what was originally said to him!

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:40, Jackie said:

That right blame some one who is no longer there. So where did this ex get his info if not lying?

I can't believe the number of people who think the worst at a drop of a hat. The above is an example - why assume the ex got true info? Is there any evidence it was true? No. Even Mifsud says he was lied to by his source. Good grief!

If the player being blamed is not guilty i would expect the club to come out and say so.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:42, Range Rover said:

Believe what you want to believe on this one Robbie. There was no 'evidence' about Scully leaving either.

No i believe that if you have no facts you dont have the right to slur someones reputation.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:29, jnrmac said:

This is the problem when you have an AFL indigenous office or whatever he is called. They look for something to do to keep them in a job. And pretty soon it gets murky.

Reminds me of the climate change 'scientists' like Tim Flannery who are paid by the Govt - whoa, guess what? He found out the world is going to fry us all........

And those University researchers in the UK who get 17million pounds a year to research climate! So what if they changed a few emails and alter data to come up with their bodgy conclusions.....

You try working in the sun for a few hours and tell me it's all lies .Compare it to being somewhere that has an ozone layer .

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:46, Robbie57 said:

No i believe that if you have no facts you dont have the right to slur someones reputation.

didnt stop Mifsud did it !!!

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:46, Robbie57 said:

No i believe that if you have no facts you dont have the right to slur someones reputation.

Mark Neeld couldn't have said it better himself.

If I was found to be making untrue, damaging statements against my current employer to others in the industry, I would be fired.

IF a rat is found I would expect no less.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:42, Dr. Gonzo said:

LOL how many senior indigenous players do we have? Pretty short list.

Channel 9 claimed they knew who it was but for privacy (yeah, yeah I know - Ch9 lol) and other reasons were not going to name him

So is it common knowledge in the press? If so, its going to bust sooner or later

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:43, Pennant St Dee said:

Robbie don't get me started on this why single anybody or race out they are all MFC footballers no matter colour or creed, singling people out or treating races or cultures differently is in fact racism.

Everything Neeld has done since he walked through the door and the way he has gone about everything has impressed me no end. It will take time but he is exactly what we need. Time for everyone at the club from players to footy department & supporters get behind this guy.

Furthermore in regard to the untruths spoken of Neeldy by Mifsud & Thomas take it all the way & if there is a rat at the club banishing them to Casey is not enough ban them from the club all together. Having said that it is a big IF as I would not put it beyond the realms of Mifsud twisiting what was originally said to him!

I was not singling them out the poster I was responding to did that. I agree I am impressed by Neeld and the accusation against him was way out of line.

I just cant believe how quick and without any facts people are prepared to suggest its a player.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:17, monoccular said:

Mifsud and Thomas have come out looking like total tools. How can one beleive what they say without evidence or a "confession"?

Let's give our "senior indigenous player" at least the benefit of any doubt before condemning him on the basis of rumor and innuendo, even if part of it came from that bastion of integrity, the AFL.

Yeah?

At the very least the Indigenous boys should front the Full Leadership group One at a Time, to either Fess Up, or explain what or who has said what to Mifsud...

Then When we find the Culprit, they stand before the whole footy dept, Boot Studders, Trainers, Staff, Players, Coaches & explain to them why...

Then the Leadership group should decide what to do about it.

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:39, daisycutter said:

" which Mifsud then relayed to Thomas - with whom he worked at St Kilda as an assistant coach - in what he thought was a private conversation about the recent Matt Rendell case."

Not only was he leaking info about Neeld at this meeting, he was STILL leaking about the Rendell case

I don't see how any Club official could work openly and confidentially with this guy in the future

And Vlad knocks back his resignation

Huh, I'm surprised Mif hasn't recieved a Thankyou parting envelope of say, Um, $100,000.00... you know, a thankyou, for your confidential approach...

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:43, Pennant St Dee said:

Robbie don't get me started on this why single anybody or race out they are all MFC footballers no matter colour or creed, singling people out or treating races or cultures differently is in fact racism.

....................

So where does a club "Indiginous Welfare Officer" (or whatever its called) stand in your definition of racism?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but the whole concept of setting up a specific racial support system has always struck me as having a level of paternalism if not racism (depending on definition)

Not trying to start a fight or be controversial, but it just shows the difficulty of defining little 'r' racism

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:50, Robbie57 said:

I was not singling them out the poster I was responding to did that. I agree I am impressed by Neeld and the accusation against him was way out of line.

I just cant believe how quick and without any facts people are prepared to suggest its a player.

No worries Robbie just my opinion on this matter to me we are all Demons from the supporters to the players and employees, same in life really just hate the seperation as IMHO it causes divides for generations and prevents us all moving forward but thats another discussion beyond a footy board

  On 03/04/2012 at 08:50, dee-luded said:

Yeah?

At the very least the Indigenous boys should front the Full Leadership group One at a Time, to either Fess Up, or explain what or who has said what to Mifsud...

Then When we find the Culprit, they stand before the whole footy dept, Boot Studders, Trainers, Staff, Players, Coaches & explain to them why...

Then the Leadership group should decide what to do about it.

Why start this with a scornful 'Yeah'? You list a perfectly reasonable process that might be followed if certain things are true, but how does that contradict monocular's plea to " give our "senior indigenous player" at least the benefit of any doubt before condemning him". The 'yeah' sounds like you do believe in condemning people based on rumour. I presume you don't believe that, so please cool it.